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2007 Hyundai Elantra vs 2007 Nissan Sentra

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Elantra, Nissan Sentra, Sedan

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#27 of 66 Car and Driver review by bamacar

Oct 31, 2006 (5:18 pm)

Elantra came in 4th out of 6; Sentra came in last. Surprises were 1st place to the Rabbit, and the Sentra could not even beat out the "old" Corolla.
 
Car and Driver said the Elantra roars on the highway. I will still give it a try, but that is the 2nd review (both with manuals) with that comment. What is strange is the fact that the Elantra was the quietest of all 6 cars at both idle and 70mph cruise. Maybe it is not the noise volume, but the sound of the engine itself.

#28 of 66 Re: Car and Driver review [bamacar] by backy

Oct 31, 2006 (5:30 pm)

Replying to: bamacar (Oct 31, 2006 5:18 pm)
I've read other reviews that noted the Elantra is a very quiet and smooth car. What could be happening is that whatever engine noise is there really stands out due to the relative quietness of the car. I experienced this effect when I drove the Sentra the other day. The car is pretty quiet in terms of wind and engine noise, and has a solid chassis. So that made the noise from hitting expansion joints on highways quite noticeable--moreso than if it happened in a noisier car I think.
 
Also I think some car reviewers hear what they expect to hear.

#29 of 66 Re: Car and Driver review [bamacar] by germancarfan1

Nov 01, 2006 (9:29 am)

Replying to: bamacar (Oct 31, 2006 5:18 pm)
This is in the December edition of C&D? Haven't received mine yet. A "completely" resdesigned car and the best it could muster was 4th out of 6th? yikes. Who came in second and third?

#30 of 66 Review by bamacar

Nov 01, 2006 (11:48 am)

Just got it yesterday. The second was the Mazda3 and the third was the Civic.

#31 of 66 Re: Review [bamacar] by germancarfan1

Nov 01, 2006 (11:51 am)

Replying to: bamacar (Nov 01, 2006 11:48 am)
Which Elantra trim level was tested?
 
What was the CD tested mileage for the Elantra as compared with the Civic/M3/Rabbit/Sentra?
 
Anyone know when the CR comparo will be done?
 
Somewhere in Hyundai corporate land, execs are praying for high NHTSA and IIHS scores to salvage this car.
 
This doesn't bode well for the Elantra. What will happen when the 2008 Corolla and 2008/2009 Saturn Ion/Opel Astra hit the market?
 
Hyundai desperately needs to drop the ancient 4-speed AUTO, revise the suspension, drop the 2.4l in, include traction control as standard and make ESC optional and keep the price the same. A few more centimeters of interior space just don't cut it in 2007 when your powerplant and chasis is sub par.

#32 of 66 Re: Review [germancarfan1] by bamacar

Nov 01, 2006 (11:58 am)

Replying to: germancarfan1 (Nov 01, 2006 11:51 am)
SE. All with manual transmissions. Don't have the mag with me, but it was Corolla/Civic 1st, Elantra 3rd, Mazda 4th, Sentra 5th, Rabbit last. I will revise if I remembered incorrectly.
 
All got their city or better rating except the Sentra was slightly worse. Is this a Nissan pattern along with the Versa not even getting the city EPA numbers?

#33 of 66 Re: Review [bamacar] by germancarfan1

Nov 01, 2006 (12:04 pm)

Replying to: bamacar (Nov 01, 2006 11:58 am)
In my experience Nissan has never engineered their engines for fuel efficiency.

#34 of 66 Re: Review [germancarfan1] by backy

Nov 01, 2006 (12:32 pm)

Replying to: germancarfan1 (Nov 01, 2006 11:51 am)
Hyundai desperately needs to drop the ancient 4-speed AUTO, revise the suspension, drop the 2.4l in, include traction control as standard and make ESC optional and keep the price the same. A few more centimeters of interior space just don't cut it in 2007 when your powerplant and chasis is sub par.
 
Why? You haven't read the review yet, so you don't know why C/D rated the Elantra 4th. The Elantra had a five-speed stick, just like the top-ranked Rabbit (and like almost every other car in the comparo--an exception being the last-place Sentra). It has a fully-independent multi-link rear suspension like the first-place Rabbit. It has more hp per pound than the Rabbit, and more torque (with just 2 fewer hp) than the 3rd-place Civic. The 3rd-place Civic LX doesn't have traction control or ESC either (actually most of the cars in the comparo don't have these features even available let alone standard). So none of these things kept, or should have kept, the Elantra from a higher ranking in the comparo. More likely it was because C/D's editors found the ride and handling to be softer than they prefer.
 
If you think Hyundai's execs are "praying", what do you think Nissan's execs are doing? Nissan is a Japan-based company; I can only imagine...

#35 of 66 Re: Review [germancarfan1] by moparbad

Nov 01, 2006 (1:00 pm)

Replying to: germancarfan1 (Nov 01, 2006 11:51 am)
Demand will exceed availability during the first year of the new Elantra.
 
The only problem facing Hyundai is where to find more capacity for engines and vehicles.
 
I completely disagree with you opinion germancarfan1. The market will determine who is correct.

#36 of 66 Re: Review [germancarfan1] by v_d

Nov 01, 2006 (3:55 pm)

Replying to: germancarfan1 (Nov 01, 2006 12:04 pm)
In my experience Nissan has never engineered their engines for fuel efficiency.
 
For the third time: THE 2.0l ENGINE IN THE SENTRA WAS DEVELOPED BY Renault ABOUT 3 YRS AGO! Not by Nissan.
 
Europe=high gas prices ==> therefore this engine WAS developed for fuel efficiency, trust me, when an European goes to a Dealer his first question is not "how many horses how many horses???", but "And the fuel consumption?".

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