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Re: Multi displacement system... [blink3] by kowalski
Jun 03, 2005 (6:04 pm)
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Replying to: blink3 (Jun 03, 2005 1:14 pm)

More info I found..
 
 5.7-LITER HEMI(R) V-8
    The modern HEMI engine offers more power and torque than any Chrysler
Group vehicle passenger car engine since the legendary 426 HEMI of the '60s
and '70s. Today's engine produces 340 hp 5000 rpm and 390 lb.-ft. of torque
at 4000 rpm.
    The new HEMI has been engineered to deliver outstanding performance, and
also provide minimal noise, vibration, and harshness, smoothness and low
emissions. Fuel economy has also been improved, but not at the expense of
performance. Chrysler Group has developed and will be the first to offer to
offer Multi-Displacement System (MDS) on a modern, large volume vehicle in
North America.
    "The Chrysler Group MDS seamlessly alternates between smooth, high fuel
economy four-cylinder mode when less power is needed, and V-8 mode when more
power from the 5.7L HEMI engine is in demand," said Eric Ridenour, Executive
Vice President Product Development Chrysler Group. "This optimizes fuel
economy when V-8 power is not needed, without sacrificing vehicle performance
-- 2005 Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT owners will get the maximum benefit
without any compromises."
    Owners of the Dodge Magnum RT will receive the powerful benefit of the
HEMI engine with the fuel economy that they would only expect from a smaller,
less powerful engine.
    "The MDS was part of the engine's original design," said Bob Lee, Vice
President Powertrain Product Team Chrysler Group. "This resulted in a
cylinder-deactivation system that is elegantly simple and completely
integrated into the engine design. The benefits are fewer parts, maximum
reliability and lower cost."
    Some of the significant technologies enabling the Chrysler Group MDS are
the speed of electronic controls, the sophistication of the algorithms
controlling the systems and the use of Electronic Throttle Control ETC. The
HEMI will be able to transition from eight cylinders to four in
40 milliseconds (0.040 seconds).
    The HEMI engine with MDS has completed over 6.5 million customer-
equivalent miles through Chrysler Group's development and durability testing.
It is covered by the 7-Year/70,000-mile Limited Powertrain warranty.
    The HEMI engine that powers the Dodge Magnum RT uses aluminum cylinder
heads with hemispherical combustion chambers for outstanding airflow leading
to high power and torque. Dual ignition (two spark plugs per cylinder)
increases peak power and torque, reduces exhaust emissions, increases fuel
economy and provides a smooth idle. The combustion system has been refined
and the engine uses direct-mount accessories for quiet operation.
    The engine is equipped with ETC which enables several of the technologies
used to maximize vehicle smoothness, performance, safety and fuel economy.
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Re: Multi displacement system... [kowalski] by kowalski
Jun 03, 2005 (6:04 pm)
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Replying to: kowalski (Jun 03, 2005 6:04 pm)

FIVE-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
    The Chrysler Group's first five-speed automatic transmission for passenger
cars provides a full range of transmission performance to match a great
variety of driving styles, situations and road conditions.
    "This transmission offers Chrysler Group customers many benefits. The
five-speed gear range provides a better balance of performance and fuel
economy than a four-speed automatic transmission," said Ridenour. "Fully
adaptive electronic control of all shifting makes the powertrain feel
responsive without harshness."
    The transmission's physical attributes include compact size, robust design
for high-torque rating and multiple features providing high efficiency. It
also utilizes highly advanced electronic controls such as fully adaptive
electronic control and Electronically Modulated Converter Clutch (EMCC).
    This five-speed automatic transmission and with all-wheel drive
applications is standard equipment with the 5.7-liter HEMI V-8 engine on the
2005 Dodge Magnum RT and with all-wheel drive applications. It is a
DaimlerChrysler transmission built at the Indiana Transmission Plant II in
Kokomo, Indiana.
    The ratio spread from first to the fifth was selected to minimize fuel
consumption and reduce powertrain noise during cruising. An aggressive
first-gear ratio provides excellent launch performance, and evenly spaced gear
ratios provide smooth acceleration through the gears.
    World-class efficiency is achieved through physical and electronic means.
This transmission uses bearings to reduce friction in many locations where
other transmissions may utilize bushings. The transmission also uses a unique
scavenging system that removes oil spun off of the rotating parts by
centrifugal force through strategically placed slots in the outside of the
case. This saves energy that would be consumed by internal parts rotating in
oil. Lubricating holes in the clutches are also positioned to promote quick
passage of the transmission fluid through the discs, minimizing viscous losses
due to trapped oil.
    Fully adaptive electronic control of all shifting makes shifts very
smooth. The system monitors the transmission as shifts occur and adjusts
hydraulic pressure as needed. In so doing, the controls make the powertrain
feel responsive without harshness. Driver recognition software alters shift
points based on accelerator pedal usage, brake usage and lateral acceleration.
This does not require a compromise between sporty and economical operation,
nor is it a question of choosing one or the other.
    The Torque Management System uses engine-torque modeling to facilitate
smooth transmission shifting. Because of ETC, torque management is more
sophisticated and covers a broad torque range.
    The shift schedule adapts to individual driving style, driving situation
and road conditions, altering shift points based on an accelerator pedal
usage, brake usage, lateral acceleration, altitude and load on the car as a
result of grades. Electronically controlled engine Torque Management System
provides quick wide-open-throttle up shifts and quick two-step (4-2 or 3-1)
kick-down shifts that are smoother than would be otherwise possible without
this feature.
 
     The transmission ratios are:
     1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Reverse
     3.58 2.19 1.41 1.00 0.83 3.17
 
    Through EMCC, torque converter clutch slippage is electronically modulated
and provides for partial engagement in third, fourth or fifth gears. This
results in improved shift feel, fuel economy, driveability and cooling. It
can be used at lower speeds to provide benefits over a broad speed range. The
system disengages as required to provide optimal performance.
 
    FOUR-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
    The 42RLE four-speed automatic transmission is a variant of the 42LE
automatic transmission used on previous Chrysler Group vehicles. It was
developed for the Dodge Magnum and is included with both V-6 engines on
rear-wheel drive models.
    This four-speed automatic features fully adaptive electronic control of
all shifting for smooth operation. Similar to the five-speed, it uses the
Torque Management System to smoothly execute quick wide-open-throttle up
shifts and down shifts. It also uses EMCC to electronically modulate torque
converter lockup and provide for partial engagement in third or fourth gears.
This results in improved shift feel, fuel economy, driveability and cooling.
 
     The transmission ratios are:
     1st 2nd 3rd 4th Reverse
     2.84 1.57 1.00 0.69 2.21
#28 of 66
Re: Multi displacement system... [blink3] by kowalski
Jun 03, 2005 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: blink3 (Jun 03, 2005 1:14 pm)

The 2006 Dodge Magnum Multi-Displacement System (MDS) allows the 5.7-litre HEMI® V8 engine to combine the power of a V8 with the fuel efficiency of a large V6 engine.
 
This ingenious system selectively and seamlessly deactivates half of the engine's cylinders while cruising and operates all eight cylinders while idling, accelerating and responding to heavy load conditions.
 
The final result is full power when you need it and up to 20% more fuel economy savings overall.
#30 of 66
Re: Multi displacement system... [kowalski] by blink3
Jun 04, 2005 (5:47 am)
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Replying to: kowalski (Jun 03, 2005 6:07 pm)

That is what I was wondering about was the reliability in the long run. If 2 cylinders are always firing, then some are and some aren't, the wear on the cylinder walls/rings, buildup of carbon on top of pistons increasing comp. ratios, etc. Hmmmmmm. I guess only time will tell. Anyone have some serious miles on their Magnum? I am looking at getting one of these but I travel appx. 1000+ miles per week and many times I am out in the middle of no where so I need something extrememly reliable. I have liked the Dodge products because of their simplicity but looks like that is all gone, replaced with sensors and controls and what not.
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Re: Multi displacement system... [blink3] by kowalski
Jun 04, 2005 (6:49 am)
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Replying to: blink3 (Jun 04, 2005 5:47 am)

6.5 million miles on the DC test hemis showed no problems..
#32 of 66
Re: Multi displacement system... [blink3] by kowalski
Jun 04, 2005 (6:50 am)
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Replying to: blink3 (Jun 04, 2005 5:47 am)

I can assure you its not like the old Dodges,lol.More mercedes than dodge.
Police agenies are going to the Magnum and charger for use DC really put the Hemi thru the ringer to capture that market ..They really went to the wall with this engine it burns very clean .......
I asked myself all the same questions you have before I bought and have never looked back ..
3000 miles on my RT AWD and not a single issue .I do know people with about 50k on thier mags, and the same holds true.
Thankgod
#33 of 66
Re: Multi displacement system... [kowalski] by blink3
Jun 04, 2005 (1:51 pm)
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Replying to: kowalski (Jun 04, 2005 6:50 am)

Very cool !!!!
#34 of 66
Re: Multi displacement system... [blink3] by kowalski
Jun 04, 2005 (10:33 pm)
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Replying to: blink3 (Jun 04, 2005 1:51 pm)

My brother who drive nothing but Audi's was in town this weekend and drove our Magnum RT AWD tonight to pick a few things up at the store.
He returned and just was freaking what a great ride the car had not to mention tons of power.........Hes buying one also asap his Saab wagon just had the turbo go out the they are not happy..
Too put it lightly we are a bit spoiled we have had some awsome rides in the past but the magnum is a total surprise and a treat ..
You cant go wrong..Just baby her and be light on the pedal till you have approx 2k on the car ..

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