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Honda Civic Hybrid Tire/Wheel Questions

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#97 of 115
Re: 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid - Unusual tire wear [kg0330] by pf_flyer HOST
Aug 22, 2009 (6:29 am)
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Replying to: kg0330 (Aug 17, 2009 6:11 pm)

I have HCH 08 and the front two wheels are worn on the inside after 23K.
 
I have to ask... did you rotate the tires? Because there's no such thing as a "perfect alignment" on ANY vehicle. If you don't rotate the tires every 5-6,000 miles, you WILL get some kind unusual wear patterns.
 
At 23K, should have been rotated at least three times. Check with any independent tire shop and they'll tell you the same.
 
I used to be a slacker on tire rotation, but once I hooked up with a tire shop instead of my dealer on tires, I started having them rotated regularly. (Your local tire guy may rotate them for free if you buy the tires from him like mine does)
 
We put a lot of miles on our vehicles and I have to say the evidence is pretty strong. Before I became a "rotator" I was getting a max of about 30,000 miles out of a set of tires. I haven't gotten less than 50,000 out of a set since. The last set of tires on my 2001 Altima went to 60,000 miles and if it hadn't been heading into fall and winter last year I likely would have gotten close to 65,000 out of them Right now they have 20K on them and at the latest rotation I measured the tread depth and they are at about 8/32 (started at 11/32) so I'm right on schedule to get 50K+ again.
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Re: 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid - Unusual tire wear [pf_flyer] by humblejd
Aug 22, 2009 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Aug 22, 2009 6:29 am)

I rotated my tires four times before 30,000 miles- and they were still horribly worn. The alignment was also adjusted when they fixed the rear arm. Did you have the rear arm replaced on your '08 Hybrid? What was the mileage when you got it fixed?
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Is the problem fixed by replacing the rear control arms? by leafbey
Sep 01, 2009 (5:11 pm)
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After the second tire rotation at 10,000 miles, I noticed heavy tire noise. The dealership showed me the factory bulletin and installed upgraded rear control arms at their expense. I had tire alignment checked (OK!) at a good tire store. The tire merchant and a Honda service writer both have told me that the cupping of all four tires will not be "healed" by wear-in, as claimed by Honda.
 
The dealership has checked the tires on 2 more occasions and the Service Manager elevated my claim to the District Representative, who turned me down flat.
 
Honda's national customer relations group has told me the District Rep has the final say. They can do no more.
 
I now have 15,000 miles on the car and there is strong vibration in the 50s and 70s mph. I am worried after reading this blog that perhaps my alignment is not ok. I am also very concerned about wear and tear on the car, which I can't afford to replace like the tires.
 
I've asked Honda's Customer Relations to annotate my complaint with the comment that I have been a very loyal customer through 4 Hondas, but this has ripped my loyalty away.
 
Where can I find a good class action lawyer? :
#100 of 115
What hybrid tires are the best???? by walt16
Sep 09, 2009 (11:09 am)
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My tires wore out at 30K on my HCH06. I had the dealer replace the upper control arm for free, but got nothing for pre-mature tire wear. They aligned and balanced the tires free as well.
I need new tires! I used the Dunlop OEM's and they gave me 40 mph (with 15%ethanol fuel) and I want to maintain that.
I heard of recommendations like Bridgestone Potenza or Escopia EP100, Cooper GFE and Goodyear Assurance Fuel Max. All are LRR tires I believe.
What tire should I get???? Help! I need them in a couple weeks for a long trip.
Thanks folks.
#101 of 115
Road/Tire Noise on my 2008 Civic Hybrid!!!!! by rlmccoy
Sep 28, 2009 (7:01 pm)
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I now know from these postings that there is a design flaw in my 2008 Civic Hybrid and its tire wear. It started at about 23000 miles and now at 32000 it is almost unbearable! I, too, have had my tires rotated by our Honda dealer with every oil change and have record of such. After all, who else am I going to take it to for an oil change? After reading all these postings about this sorry tire/car design, I realize that I probably made a big mistake in buying this car. Where is your savings if you have to buy a new set of tires extremely prematurely? But what really ticks me off is that way too much of the good mileage of this cars is based on a freakin' tire instead of the hybrid assist system. We have been had. And another thing----the car is a HONDA which is the reason I bought it. Why in the world won't they take responsibility for this problem. I hope there is a class action lawsuit that will put thousands of dollars back in our pockets.
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Re: Road/Tire Noise on my 2008 Civic Hybrid!!!!! [rlmccoy] by hybridblues
Sep 29, 2009 (3:43 am)
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Replying to: rlmccoy (Sep 28, 2009 7:01 pm)

After dealer replacement of rear upper control arms on my 06 HCH (after of a year of bullshit excuses when they knew of the problem; a buddy ran his Civic off the road from bad tires), it is much better but not perfect; tires still tilted inward and wear on the inside. However, I may be fooled by better wearing tires (Yokohama AVID TRZ; almost as good mileage (high 40s to 50 MPG summer; low 40s winter) as Dunlop OEMs Their TSB admits to the problem FINALLY so I assumed that 2008 would be fine. Make sure you have the correct control arms on the rear. Like you say, we trusted HONDA and got shafted...man, do I regret not getting a Prius.
 
P.S. I change my own engine and tranny oil - 5W-20 Quaker State works fine and little or no mileage loss (0W-20 is way too pricey) and the $8/quart of CVT oil at the dealer is hard to take but only 3 quarts every 30K or so.
#103 of 115
Re: Road/Tire Noise on my 2008 Civic Hybrid!!!!! [hybridblues] by rlmccoy
Sep 29, 2009 (7:55 pm)
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Replying to: hybridblues (Sep 29, 2009 3:43 am)

Could you please tell me more about these Yokohama AVID TRZ substitutes? Isn't it funny that Honda only recognizes 2 tire brands with each one having one model for the Civic Hybrid but yet if you take this problem we have been discussing to Honda then its the "tire manufacturer's fault"? Does that even make sense?
#104 of 115
2008 civic ex..control arms and tire replacement by rockyrollz
Oct 07, 2009 (9:43 pm)
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at 19000 miles, just recently found out abt the control arms and tire replacements...and obviously honda is not paying anything to replace tires. Has anyone had any luck on any complaints against the company regarding this problem coz the AH doesnt seem to care. Also had a problem with external water pump last year...i guess thats so much for a honda....there ends my honda loyalty.
#105 of 115
Re: 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid - Unusual tire wear [kg0330] by udaychoudhury
Oct 10, 2009 (6:31 pm)
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Replying to: kg0330 (Aug 17, 2009 6:11 pm)

I have exactly the same problem (HCH 2008) . At 14000 miles I went to the dealer for 1st minor service, they told me the rear-tire edges are wearing down, need to change two tires and recommended to do alignment by paying $99.I had my initial oil change done at 7000 miles, they did not tell me anything at that time. After I showed my frustration, dealer tells me to check with bridgestone for tire warranty (which is not going to work because I did not purchase the tires from Bridgestone, Honda did).
1. I would like to know if anybody has contacted American Honda main office and has any response from them.
2. If I do an alignment check outside (not with Honda service) and find no-alignment issues, are they going to pay for this.
3. Given such a massive number of complaints, is anybody aware of mass-law-suit in progress or preparation.
 
#106 of 115
lug nut cover inserts by wmh9680
Oct 18, 2009 (6:12 pm)
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I have a 2008 HCH and 3 of the 4 covers for the lugnuts are chipping. There are no scratches or chips on the rims themselves. Honda has replaced one aready and they have sent pictures in to get an opinion from Honda, but so far the dealer says it is from driving. I only have 12,000 miles and am extremely careful with the car everywhere I go. I find it hard to believe that after 14 months and 12,000 miles that 3 of the 4 inserts would be chipping. Has anyone else had a simliar problem? Thanks, Mike

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