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#91 of 282 Uneven wear and cupping HCH 2008
Jul 24, 2009 (3:32 pm)
I own a 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid and am experiencing uneven rear tire wear and cupping. The tire life is reduced to 20,000 miles.The car came equipped with the upper rear control arm that was supposed to fix this problem. Obviously, that did not fix the problem. I'm on my second set of tires now. I've read the messages on
this forum and it appears this problem has existed at least since 2003. Does
anyone have the solution to this problem?
#92 of 282 2007
Jul 25, 2009 (2:09 am)
They replaced mine on my 2007 and I am starting to get road noise again. Most likely it is weak struts and shocks from the factory.
My last Honda ever. The quality is after profit for these guys as evident they made a profit when everyone else is going down the tubes.
#93 of 282 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid - Unusual tire wear
Aug 17, 2009 (2:17 pm)
I have a 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid that has had all recommended maintenance, including tire rotation. All reports to that point indicated that the tires were in good condition. There are 13,000 miles on the car at that point. Two months later at 15,000 miles, after excessive noise and vibration, I'm told the tires all need to be replaced due to inside wear and cupping. I see that this is a somewhat common issue in this vehicle and am annoyed the neither Honda or the dealerships take ownership of this problem and correcting it. When first reported, the dealership failed to mention that this was a known issue on the car and basically told me I must have hit a pot hole or something. I had the tires replaced with Dunlops (those were the original tires) and the car still vibrates. I'm told my car has the updated arm on the rear tires and doesn't have the same problem as the multitude of posts on this site. Obviously there is something wrong with this car model. I would appreciate anyone's information on how they got the tires replaced, aligned, rotated, etc. without having to shell out hundreds of dollars every few months. I'm counting the days until I can turn this leased vehicle back into the dealership. I will not get another civic hybrid.
#94 of 282 Re: 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid - Unusual tire wear [hybridnomore]
Aug 17, 2009 (3:14 pm)
I can only give you a "reality check" and say that I had the same experience with my 2003 Hybrid. After reading the related posts, I decided it was time to trade the Civic for an Insight. I used my knowledge of the tire wear problem as leverage in negotiating the trade in value of the Civic. Good luck!
#95 of 282 Re: 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid - Unusual tire wear [hybridnomore]
Aug 17, 2009 (6:11 pm)
I have HCH 08 and the front two wheels are worn on the inside after 23K. Curiously, for the rear tires, only one on driver's side is worn on the inside. I called the dealer and they said I must have hit a pot hole (the same song and dance other users here got) . My regular mechanic refused to serviced the car due to his machine did not detect any misalignment. Funny thing is that American Honda said my car VIN does not fall in to the Service Bulletin updated JULY 22, 2009 (http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/a08-001.PDF)
I guess the control arm issues don't appy to my specific VIN, yet my car has the same cupping problem.
I'm not sure what to do next. I'm tempted to just bring it to Sears for alignment and tire replacement and not have to deal with the dealer who doesn't what to deal with the dddreal issue here
#96 of 282 Re: Uneven wear and cupping HCH 2008 [tgbuilder]
Aug 21, 2009 (4:15 am)
I have a HCH 2008 and I too have had this issue with the cupping etc. I called Honda and spoke to my dealer. The best they can do is for the dealer to pay half of the cost of fixing the rear arm control. Something is better than nothing. But this upsets me since i have spent money on replacing the tires too soon. Honda wasnt willing to do anything on their end. I hate my HCH. I should have bought the Prius.
#97 of 282 Re: 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid - Unusual tire wear [kg0330]
by PFFlyer@Edmunds HOST
Aug 22, 2009 (6:29 am)
I have HCH 08 and the front two wheels are worn on the inside after 23K.
I have to ask... did you rotate the tires? Because there's no such thing as a "perfect alignment" on ANY vehicle. If you don't rotate the tires every 5-6,000 miles, you WILL get some kind unusual wear patterns.
At 23K, should have been rotated at least three times. Check with any independent tire shop and they'll tell you the same.
I used to be a slacker on tire rotation, but once I hooked up with a tire shop instead of my dealer on tires, I started having them rotated regularly. (Your local tire guy may rotate them for free if you buy the tires from him like mine does)
We put a lot of miles on our vehicles and I have to say the evidence is pretty strong. Before I became a "rotator" I was getting a max of about 30,000 miles out of a set of tires. I haven't gotten less than 50,000 out of a set since. The last set of tires on my 2001 Altima went to 60,000 miles and if it hadn't been heading into fall and winter last year I likely would have gotten close to 65,000 out of them Right now they have 20K on them and at the latest rotation I measured the tread depth and they are at about 8/32 (started at 11/32) so I'm right on schedule to get 50K+ again.
#98 of 282 Re: 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid - Unusual tire wear [pf_flyer]
Aug 22, 2009 (9:11 am)
I rotated my tires four times before 30,000 miles- and they were still horribly worn. The alignment was also adjusted when they fixed the rear arm. Did you have the rear arm replaced on your '08 Hybrid? What was the mileage when you got it fixed?
#99 of 282 Is the problem fixed by replacing the rear control arms?
Sep 01, 2009 (5:11 pm)
After the second tire rotation at 10,000 miles, I noticed heavy tire noise. The dealership showed me the factory bulletin and installed upgraded rear control arms at their expense. I had tire alignment checked (OK!) at a good tire store. The tire merchant and a Honda service writer both have told me that the cupping of all four tires will not be "healed" by wear-in, as claimed by Honda.
The dealership has checked the tires on 2 more occasions and the Service Manager elevated my claim to the District Representative, who turned me down flat.
Honda's national customer relations group has told me the District Rep has the final say. They can do no more.
I now have 15,000 miles on the car and there is strong vibration in the 50s and 70s mph. I am worried after reading this blog that perhaps my alignment is not ok. I am also very concerned about wear and tear on the car, which I can't afford to replace like the tires.
I've asked Honda's Customer Relations to annotate my complaint with the comment that I have been a very loyal customer through 4 Hondas, but this has ripped my loyalty away.
Where can I find a good class action lawyer? :
#100 of 282 What hybrid tires are the best????
Sep 09, 2009 (11:09 am)
My tires wore out at 30K on my HCH06. I had the dealer replace the upper control arm for free, but got nothing for pre-mature tire wear. They aligned and balanced the tires free as well.
I need new tires! I used the Dunlop OEM's and they gave me 40 mph (with 15%ethanol fuel) and I want to maintain that.
I heard of recommendations like Bridgestone Potenza or Escopia EP100, Cooper GFE and Goodyear Assurance Fuel Max. All are LRR tires I believe.
What tire should I get???? Help! I need them in a couple weeks for a long trip.