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#243 of 282 HCH wheel alignment and tire issue
Dec 29, 2008 (2:46 pm)
#244 of 282 HCH wheel alignment and tire issue
Dec 29, 2008 (2:49 pm)
Hi. I own a 2006 HCH and my rear tires were cheesed with inner tire wear at 14,600 miles. I went to the dealership where I bought the car, and the service advisor told me to get an alignment and replace all the tires or at least the rear ones. After reading this great forum, I am wondering if I am just going to cheese the new tires again. What do you think? I do not know what to do.
#245 of 282 Re: HCH wheel alignment and tire issue [janestadler5]
Dec 29, 2008 (4:31 pm)
Read my earlier 4 posts, starting July 2008. I would get an independent shop's alignment to see if it is off and in their opinion, if it caused the tire wear. If it is off and could have caused it, get new tires, too, but not the same OEM tires. They are terrible. Have Honda check the control arms, front and rear. This is what I did.
#246 of 282 Re: HCH wheel alignment and tire issue [mgrantaz]
Dec 30, 2008 (1:35 pm)
I took my car to the Honda dealership where I bought it, and they would not check the rear and front control arms. According to a Honda mechanic (not at the dealership, who used to work for this same dealership though), the service advisors are told NOT to check the rear control arms.
Today I called American Honda, and they referred my case to a "case manager." The case manager is supposed to get back to me in ~1 week.
My car has a VIN # which is not one of the ones for which Honda automatically replaces the rear control arm Part A mentioned in TSB 08-001. But my symptoms are ~identical to the ones mentioned in TSB 08-001.
It is going to be interesting to see what happens...
Thank you for your reply.
#247 of 282 Re: HCH wheel alignment and tire issue [mgrantaz]
Dec 30, 2008 (1:43 pm)
One other thought. Aren't I just going to repeat the same sequence of events that occurred when I bought the car, if I have an alignment and then buy 4 new tires? Because presumably, Honda aligned the car before they sold it to me, and with the factory tires wearing so unevenly and with at least initially good alignment, there must be something wrong to be causing this very very uneven wear on the rear tires. This reasoning causes me to think I am throwing good $ after bad, and that there must be something wrong with the car other than just the tires +/or the alignment.
#248 of 282 Re: HCH wheel alignment and tire issue [janestadler5]
Dec 30, 2008 (9:05 pm)
Read my post #94 (July 14). I had loud noises, extreme vibrations/shaking, AND uneven tire wear. Maybe that is why they test rode then checked control arms and bearings without resistance. They found nothing wrong. I bought Falken 912's that I read about from others on the internet and had a 4-wheel alignment done. 9000 miles later I have a smooth, quiet ride now, no vibration/shaking, and no uneven tire wear. I think it was a combination of bad tires (OEM) and a slight misalignment.
You should get your car aligned in either case, no matter who ends up paying for your tires. If it proves ok, then shove it in Honda's face and make them find/fix your problem. If it is misaligned, then you have a cause for uneven tire wear. Just don't buy the same tires--I think they stink.
#249 of 282 The Winning Number Is:
Jan 01, 2009 (5:56 pm)
hi, sorry this took me so long. the dealer replaced the rear control arms and did a 4 wheel alignment on my 2006 hch. after the alignment, those original junk tires made the car all wobbly! bad enough, they were unsafe and i slid on sand, snow and around corners even at low speeds! a call to advertising/marketing referred me to a gal who got the issue resolved for me. the case # is: N012008-06-2600875.
honda america sent me $429 for new tires.
i hope this number helps y'all. i'm still pissed the car only gets 37 - 44 mpg...and consumer reports confirms this.
Feb 03, 2009 (10:56 am)
I have a 2008 Hybrid and had a loud roaring noise and noticed severe tire wear even though I have almost all interstate miles and rotate every 5k. I went to the dealership and was told I needed control arms, alignment and tires. Honda would only prorate the tires, which would have cost me over $300, so I held off until I talked with Honda. The dealership changed the control arms and did the alignment. I complained to Honda and they finally agreed to cover all but $100 of the new tires. I got them today and will see how it goes. I was at least happy that they helped with the tires even though I think they should cover the entire cost since a vehicle problem caused the tires to wear.
#251 of 282 Not that bad
Feb 03, 2009 (6:32 pm)
Everyone here is complaining that that Honda isn't helping them,you want new tires,blah blah blah,you know you all are very lucky because Ford,GM,Isuzu,etc,try getting them to even think about fixing a mistake,they'll laugh at you,at least Honda is willing to pull the cars in and replace the defective components,I had my control arms replaced today,do I bitch about tires,no. I'm buying new tires,I got 40,000 miles from a set of Toyos and that's pretty good for sports tires,sure they are chopped on the inside edge,but I keep an eye on them,what I see here is alot of you aren't even looking at your tires until something feels wrong with the car,at that point it's too late to save them,so you are going to hold it against Honda because you don't keep an eye on your car,sure it's their defect but it's your responsibility to insure the vehicle is safe before you drive.Don't you dare try bad mouth a company like Honda because your not going to find anything better.
#252 of 282 Tire Control Arm Issue
Feb 09, 2009 (2:45 pm)
I bought an '08 HCH in January of 2008. I was extremely happy with the mpg up until September when I found out the tire control arms were bad (Honda has a bulletin on it). They replaced the arms and told me they could only prorate a credit on the tires. I pitched a fit and they gave me four new tires. Only problem is that my mpg is about 10 mpg less now than it was before I had the work done. Anyone else have this problem?
I wonder if Honda discovered they could get better mpg with the wrong tire control arms and that's why they used them.