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Honda Civic, Tires, Wheels, Hybrid Cars, Coupe, Sedan
#239 of 282 Your wasting your time (Civic Tire Problems)
Dec 17, 2008 (6:22 pm)
We purchased a 2008 HCH at the at the very end of 2007.
My wife noticed tire noise soon after. That noise has only worsened.
The dealership gave us the runaround and finally blamed it on us.
The customer support (out of California) did nothing more than add lip service, concluding the problem was us even though I attached their service bulletin (admitting the problem) to my complaint letter.
From my engineering background, I concluded the car appears to have a design definciency. Probably has something to do with the combination of a specialized suspension and harder (low rolling resistance tires). I expect it costs less for the manufacturer to stall than correct the problem.
Prior to this, I was planning on purchasing a civic for myself. Now I won't be buying a Honda at all !
We're disappointed in Honda and disappointed in the civic.
#240 of 282 aue
Dec 17, 2008 (7:08 pm)
I can't believe that Honda hasn't fixed this Civic tire
problem yet. How do they maintain their cool green user friendly image?
#241 of 282 Re: Your wasting your time (Civic Tire Problems) [NoisyWheel]
Dec 18, 2008 (5:14 am)
I too experienced the same problem with the tire noise. Honda replaced the rear control arms according to the bulliten, and I replaced the rear tires about 12k miles ago, and I haven't had any problems since. Just have them replace the rear control arms and replace the affected tires and you'll be fine.
#242 of 282 Re: Your wasting your time (Civic Tire Problems) [NoisyWheel]
Dec 18, 2008 (9:24 am)
Read my earlier messages in July...this is update #4...
My Falken 912's were rotated and inspected after 6000 miles. No uneven tire wear, no noises, very quiet, and a more comfortable ride than the OEM tires at 35 PSI. I will soon take it for an alignment check, even though it seems fine. I now am convinced my problem was the OEM tires from Honda.
#243 of 282 HCH wheel alignment and tire issue
Dec 29, 2008 (1:46 pm)
#244 of 282 HCH wheel alignment and tire issue
Dec 29, 2008 (1:49 pm)
Hi. I own a 2006 HCH and my rear tires were cheesed with inner tire wear at 14,600 miles. I went to the dealership where I bought the car, and the service advisor told me to get an alignment and replace all the tires or at least the rear ones. After reading this great forum, I am wondering if I am just going to cheese the new tires again. What do you think? I do not know what to do.
#245 of 282 Re: HCH wheel alignment and tire issue [janestadler5]
Dec 29, 2008 (3:31 pm)
Read my earlier 4 posts, starting July 2008. I would get an independent shop's alignment to see if it is off and in their opinion, if it caused the tire wear. If it is off and could have caused it, get new tires, too, but not the same OEM tires. They are terrible. Have Honda check the control arms, front and rear. This is what I did.
#246 of 282 Re: HCH wheel alignment and tire issue [mgrantaz]
Dec 30, 2008 (12:35 pm)
I took my car to the Honda dealership where I bought it, and they would not check the rear and front control arms. According to a Honda mechanic (not at the dealership, who used to work for this same dealership though), the service advisors are told NOT to check the rear control arms.
Today I called American Honda, and they referred my case to a "case manager." The case manager is supposed to get back to me in ~1 week.
My car has a VIN # which is not one of the ones for which Honda automatically replaces the rear control arm Part A mentioned in TSB 08-001. But my symptoms are ~identical to the ones mentioned in TSB 08-001.
It is going to be interesting to see what happens...
Thank you for your reply.
#247 of 282 Re: HCH wheel alignment and tire issue [mgrantaz]
Dec 30, 2008 (12:43 pm)
One other thought. Aren't I just going to repeat the same sequence of events that occurred when I bought the car, if I have an alignment and then buy 4 new tires? Because presumably, Honda aligned the car before they sold it to me, and with the factory tires wearing so unevenly and with at least initially good alignment, there must be something wrong to be causing this very very uneven wear on the rear tires. This reasoning causes me to think I am throwing good $ after bad, and that there must be something wrong with the car other than just the tires +/or the alignment.
#248 of 282 Re: HCH wheel alignment and tire issue [janestadler5]
Dec 30, 2008 (8:05 pm)
Read my post #94 (July 14). I had loud noises, extreme vibrations/shaking, AND uneven tire wear. Maybe that is why they test rode then checked control arms and bearings without resistance. They found nothing wrong. I bought Falken 912's that I read about from others on the internet and had a 4-wheel alignment done. 9000 miles later I have a smooth, quiet ride now, no vibration/shaking, and no uneven tire wear. I think it was a combination of bad tires (OEM) and a slight misalignment.
You should get your car aligned in either case, no matter who ends up paying for your tires. If it proves ok, then shove it in Honda's face and make them find/fix your problem. If it is misaligned, then you have a cause for uneven tire wear. Just don't buy the same tires--I think they stink.