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Honda Civic, Tires, Wheels, Hybrid Cars, Coupe, Sedan
Oct 31, 2008 (5:31 am)
i am a retired alignment specialist with over 20 years experience . i took my 2000 honda to dealer they told me $600 to replace contol arms and align rear end . honda has had this problem since 2000 . the older hondas had cams on the rear ends and could be adjusted . i have aligned 100's of them . i got the runaround . will probably get the parts ( they have control arms that will correct the problem ) and replace them myself . but first i want to know if any one has been successful in having this done a the dealer's expense ? george
#234 of 282 Re: george mitchell [alignmentman]
Oct 31, 2008 (5:51 am)
the dealer set me up to replace my 2006 rear control arms at their exspnse. i had to fight for tire replacement. the tires were downright dangerous at 16000 miles. after a month of phone calls, honda america paid me $429 for my new - safe tires. i will not do business with honda again. they tried to blame the warped tires on me for not rotating them at exactly 5k miles. i had rotated them 2x when i took them off. bad control arms warp tires. not rotating the the tires would have saved the front ones! honda does not live up to my value standard...and i only get 39 on the hybrid...no more hondas!
Nov 03, 2008 (6:32 am)
if there is an attorney out there who will create a class action against honda for the recurring problem i wish you would contact me . i believe there is enough evidence that honda knew about this problem but chose too ignore it for the last 8 years . they should pay up . i'd love to see a class action against them . i'd be the first to sign up !! george
Nov 09, 2008 (4:19 am)
After a long and painful process my girlfriend got her rear control arms replaced and 4 new tires that Honda paid for around 12k miles ago....we've rotated them after 6k and just yesterday....she mentioned that they were making noise again before I brought them in yesterday for rotating/balancing.
The folks that rotated them put on the invoice that all tires were cupped on the inside...so it appears that the "new" rear control arms haven't fixed the problem...
Back to the dealer again I suppose...and I was sure looking forward to buying the new Honda Insight or the hybrid version of the Fit when it came out...
Anyone else have the new rear control arms installed and still having tire issues?
Nov 09, 2008 (6:10 am)
I've heard of similar issues on Saturns where they had a TSB for a shim fix for a rear alignment (camber) problem.
If it's something where the adjustment needs to be "helped" with shims to get it to specs, I'm not sure that replacing control arms is going to do much of anything unless those control ares were bent or deformed somehow. But that's just a gut feeling
Nov 09, 2008 (10:49 pm)
ummmm, one needs the new control arms, then a 4 wheel alignment, then the new tires. go back right away.
#239 of 282 Your wasting your time (Civic Tire Problems)
Dec 17, 2008 (6:22 pm)
We purchased a 2008 HCH at the at the very end of 2007.
My wife noticed tire noise soon after. That noise has only worsened.
The dealership gave us the runaround and finally blamed it on us.
The customer support (out of California) did nothing more than add lip service, concluding the problem was us even though I attached their service bulletin (admitting the problem) to my complaint letter.
From my engineering background, I concluded the car appears to have a design definciency. Probably has something to do with the combination of a specialized suspension and harder (low rolling resistance tires). I expect it costs less for the manufacturer to stall than correct the problem.
Prior to this, I was planning on purchasing a civic for myself. Now I won't be buying a Honda at all !
We're disappointed in Honda and disappointed in the civic.
#240 of 282 aue
Dec 17, 2008 (7:08 pm)
I can't believe that Honda hasn't fixed this Civic tire
problem yet. How do they maintain their cool green user friendly image?
#241 of 282 Re: Your wasting your time (Civic Tire Problems) [NoisyWheel]
Dec 18, 2008 (5:14 am)
I too experienced the same problem with the tire noise. Honda replaced the rear control arms according to the bulliten, and I replaced the rear tires about 12k miles ago, and I haven't had any problems since. Just have them replace the rear control arms and replace the affected tires and you'll be fine.
#242 of 282 Re: Your wasting your time (Civic Tire Problems) [NoisyWheel]
Dec 18, 2008 (9:24 am)
Read my earlier messages in July...this is update #4...
My Falken 912's were rotated and inspected after 6000 miles. No uneven tire wear, no noises, very quiet, and a more comfortable ride than the OEM tires at 35 PSI. I will soon take it for an alignment check, even though it seems fine. I now am convinced my problem was the OEM tires from Honda.