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#104 of 113 2008 civic ex..control arms and tire replacement by rockyrollz Oct 07, 2009 (9:43 pm)
at 19000 miles, just recently found out abt the control arms and tire replacements...and obviously honda is not paying anything to replace tires. Has anyone had any luck on any complaints against the company regarding this problem coz the AH doesnt seem to care. Also had a problem with external water pump last year...i guess thats so much for a honda....there ends my honda loyalty.
#105 of 113 Re: 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid - Unusual tire wear [kg0330] by udaychoudhury Oct 10, 2009 (6:31 pm)
Replying to: kg0330 (Aug 17, 2009 6:11 pm) I have exactly the same problem (HCH 2008) . At 14000 miles I went to the dealer for 1st minor service, they told me the rear-tire edges are wearing down, need to change two tires and recommended to do alignment by paying $99.I had my initial oil change done at 7000 miles, they did not tell me anything at that time. After I showed my frustration, dealer tells me to check with bridgestone for tire warranty (which is not going to work because I did not purchase the tires from Bridgestone, Honda did). 1. I would like to know if anybody has contacted American Honda main office and has any response from them. 2. If I do an alignment check outside (not with Honda service) and find no-alignment issues, are they going to pay for this. 3. Given such a massive number of complaints, is anybody aware of mass-law-suit in progress or preparation.
#106 of 113 lug nut cover inserts by wmh9680 Oct 18, 2009 (6:12 pm)
I have a 2008 HCH and 3 of the 4 covers for the lugnuts are chipping. There are no scratches or chips on the rims themselves. Honda has replaced one aready and they have sent pictures in to get an opinion from Honda, but so far the dealer says it is from driving. I only have 12,000 miles and am extremely careful with the car everywhere I go. I find it hard to believe that after 14 months and 12,000 miles that 3 of the 4 inserts would be chipping. Has anyone else had a simliar problem? Thanks, Mike
#107 of 113 Re: Road/Tire Noise on my 2008 Civic Hybrid!!!!! [hybridblues] by rlmccoy Oct 18, 2009 (6:50 pm)
Replying to: hybridblues (Sep 29, 2009 3:43 am) I just have to let you know that I decided that I wasn't going to put up with Honda and its attitude about these tires so I went out and found a 2008 Prius program car with the exact same features my 2008 Civic Hybrid has and since it did not affect my monthly payments and only had 8000 miles on it I traded in the Civic Hybrid and never looked back. I did not want to say, "I regretted not buying the Prius" when I had the opportunity. I forgot how comfortable/plush these cars really are. Maybe I can still be part of the lawsuit, anyway.
#108 of 113 RE: tire wear and tsb 08-001 by eljoh Oct 31, 2009 (2:09 pm)
First, thank to all forum folks for entering information about HCH 2008. I found out about 2 TSBs that did apply to my car (auto stop hard restart issue, acceleration from stop issue). Took in for my B1 minor service, took printed out pdfs of the TSBs. No problem. Then at service desk to pick up car, tech says "your tires all have a lot of inner wear, and your right rear is bald on the inner side. We recommend you get an alignment and consider replacing the bad tire."   Me: I think this is covered by a TSB. Tech: I'm not sure, but don't think so. Me: Let's have a look Tech: clicks around on puter for several minutes, says " I know there is one for the 2006, but don't think it applies to 2008" Me: I'm pretty sure and it's in my VIN range as I recall. I ddin't print it out as i didn't know I had that issue. Keep looking. Tech calls over supervisor. I ask them to read out loud. They do. slowly it emerges that my VIN is covered by TSB 08-001 (all 06-07, and a vin range for 08). Then they tell me my wear isn't enuf to qualify. I respond sounds pretty dangerous, so it must qualify. Then they read "if the inner part is bald" you ignore the middle tread number, and enter the prorate chart ata 2/32 tread. The TSB also says, do NOT replace only one tire, if one tire bad, replace 2.   A bit more polite smiling persistance, and a full 08-001 TSB service done at no charge, and a rental car paid for, as they were not equipped to do all this that afternoon. I had to split the cost of 2 tires 50%.   I think they did well by me EXCEPT -- when the tech told me of my inner tire wear issue, he used exactly the phraseology from the TSB, yet never mentioned it, nor seemed to think it could possible be.   At home, did some research the 2008 HCH was added to this TSB (versus creating a new TSB) Feb 08, so it is possible (?) that they weren't fully aware that 08 had been added (early 08s - like mine bought in 07).   I did find the TSB 08-001 and saved it as a pdf, i cannot figure out the link i used to get to, but do know i googled HCH TSB 08-001 and eventually found the PDF. Its'a 5 page PDF and the dealer has to take all sorts of photos of the tires so they can be reimbursed.   hope this helps you all.
#109 of 113 Re: 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid - Unusual tire wear [hybridnomore] by eljoh Oct 31, 2009 (2:13 pm)
Replying to: hybridnomore (Aug 17, 2009 2:17 pm) check out my posting, number 108 in this thread.. there is a tsb that covers this issue and I just got the work done "free." TSB 08-001.   eljoh
#110 of 113 Similar problem by mainiac59 Nov 01, 2009 (1:16 pm)
Let me share my story.   I bought a 2008 HCH in November of 2007. All was fine until I had snow tires last winter. In February 2009, I found out that my snow tires were worn and needed to be replaced. I bought Goodyear Triple Treads. In less than two months, I started hearing some loud humming at certain speeds. At my next scheduled service, i found out that my tires were cupping (in fact, the snow tires also had cupped). That was in June. The service manager told me about the TSB and replaced the rear control arms. he said they couldn't do anything for me on the tires. I bought a new set of Triple Treads.   Two weeks ago, I had my tires rotated, and the same noise is back. I'm goiing back to the dealership.   In the meantime, another thought popped into my head. Why were the OEM tires okay? They weigh 18 lbs. each, while the Triple Treads weigh 24 lbs. each.   My question for you is: could that make a difference? Should I stick with LRR tires on my HCH? Or is the problem elsewhere?   Thanks!
#111 of 113 HCH 2008 Tire Treadwear, MPG, and Alignment Woes by scossel Nov 03, 2009 (4:24 pm)
I bought a HCH 2008 in May of 2008 and I have 50,000 miles on it now. Last winter (at about 25,000) Honda noticed that my tires were wearing unevenly and told me that I needed to get my alignment checked. (And yes before you ask, Honda performed all of the required maintenance on my car and and did all the tire rotations as scheduled). They "fixed" it or so I was told. About 20,000 miles later, I noticed that my car was making some crazy noises. So I take it back to Honda, and they tell me that I need my alignment "fixed" again and that I need my rear rotator arm or whatever fixed. BUT I also need new tires now because the original Dunlops wore unevenly. So - I get my alignment "fixed" again and the rear rotator arm is "fixed" as well (at no charge), and I buy Yokohama Avid TRZ tires for my car because the Dunlops were crappy in ice and snow. I like the Yokohama tires - they are better but my mpg dropped from 45 to 38 mpg. So - what do I do now? Do I keep the car and just deal with having to buy new tires every year? Should I keep the Yokohamas and hope they deal with this problem better or go back to the Dunlops and just expect to buy new tires every year? Or should I stay with a better tire and just deal with the drop in mpg? Someone, please, please help me! Thanks. Replies to this message: hybridblues (Nov 04, 2009 5:51 am) scossel (Nov 04, 2009 1:13 pm)
#112 of 113 Re: HCH 2008 Tire Treadwear, MPG, and Alignment Woes [scossel] by hybridblues Nov 04, 2009 (5:51 am)
Replying to: scossel (Nov 03, 2009 4:24 pm) I had/have similar problems with a 2006 HCH and after 3 sets of tires and all sorts of excuses, Honda kindly replaced the upper control arm (incompetent bogus design). It's better but still noisy and premature wear...my Yoko AVIDs are about shot after 30K. I get 45-50 MPG (low 40s in winter) with them though (Dunlops were a little better); driving habits must be the difference.   BUT I can't believe that Honda has allowed this problem to fester...they knew in 2006 that they screwed up (rear tires tilted inward) and it's still happening...this is outrageous...we must band together and demand a recall. I complained to NHTSA (clearly a safety issue...quick wear = more accidents even deaths) and wrote to Honda; I suggest everyone do the same. And next time, buy a PRIUS. Replies to this message: scossel (Nov 04, 2009 1:13 pm)
#113 of 113 Re: HCH 2008 Tire Treadwear, MPG, and Alignment Woes [hybridblues] by scossel Nov 04, 2009 (1:13 pm)
Replying to: hybridblues (Nov 04, 2009 5:51 am) With the Dunlops - I got 50 mpg in the summer and 47 mpg in the winter. I also got 50,000 miles out of them. I do only highway driving and I put the cruise control on at 60 mph and stay there for the entire time. I was still getting this mileage until I changed tires and that's the only thing that I changed and my mpg drops like a rock? WTF? Also the TSB states that my car does not fall into this catagory that by the time my car was made, this problem was FIXED! Uh - yeah right! Anyway - I don't want this car anymore and with the amount of driving I do - its making me nervous. I need to decide if I want to keep dealing with this crap or get something else and just take a hit (money wise) just to have piece of mind. I bought this car with the idea that I would own it until it died, because its a Honda right? I am SO disappointed. Anyway - I am calling my lawyer and seeing if I can do anything about this. I'll keep you all updated.......

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