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135 messages, Last post on Nov 05, 2009 at 1:57 PM
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I've been trying to find an alternative to the Toyo A20 245/55R19, the Bridgestone Dueler doesn't seem much better and the Toyo Open Country doesn't seem that much of an improvement... I was looking at a Michelin Lat 255/55R19... will that set off every bell and whistle if I put them on? Has anyone tried to go with the larger tire? The tech guy at Toyota seems to think it will mess things up...but then he's trying to sell me more A20's...
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Replying to: mjzhh (Apr 01, 2009 12:37 pm) at toyota said better to go with the original size.There is a site www.tiresavings.com I came up with a MICHELIN (Pilot HX MXM 4) Touring All-Season 235/55HR19 for $231 each.Good Luck. |
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Replying to: mjzhh (Apr 01, 2009 12:37 pm) The Nokian is a decent all-season winter tire. We have used it in snow up to 6 inches unplowed and also the fresh powdery stuff, slush and packed icy gunk. Dry weather handling is OK but not as good as the triple tred. THis Nokian is designed for all-season with added snow-capability. It cannot beat a dedicated snow or studded snow but it beats other standard four season. The TripleTred provides surprisingly good handling in dry and wet conditions. It is solid in snow but just a hair less sure-footed than the Nokian. No skid or anything but I can feel the VDIM activating in some cases. It is surprisingly good on ice at lower speed (15-20 MPH) but ABS and VDIM will activate a bit more often than the Nokian. Our HH went straight and true. We expected NOkian to perform well in winter and it has. We did not expect it to be a "performance"-handling tire in dry weather and that is so. It is decent, but a tad slow in response compared against the Triple tred. We did not expect the TripleTred to do well in snow and ice and it surprised us. We also did not expect TripleTred to significantly improve the handling of our 06 HH and it completely surprised us. Never before would I believe that tires can so influence the handling characteristics of a large heavy tall SUV. The Nokians were used sparingly over two winters and only when we were heading into the Sierras during or after a winter storm. We did not drive it much once we are back in the SF Bay Area. They are replaced by the Triple Tred once we are home. Wear has been excellent given the limited use. TripleTred is our do-all year-round tire and it wears a bit faster. I do not believe we will get the claimed 60,000 miles, may be at best 45000 miles. Hope you find what you need. |
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Replying to: rodonnell (Jan 05, 2009 6:46 pm) My only problem was the tech used an impact wrench and really torqued the lug nuts. I don't know why they teach new automotive technicians to ignore torque specifications. Plus the tires were inflated to 35 lbs. I corrected all that the following morning in my driveway. I plan on being more regular with the tire rotations this set as well. Definately recommend the Michelins. |
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This thread has a wealth of knowledge and experience. Thank you so much (everyone) for posting your tire issues. As for me and my wife, we just got our 09 HH Limited. With only 300 miles on the odometer, my wife turned on the car and read a low tire pressure reading. I told her to bring it to the dealer and have them check the tire pressure on all the tires since the readout on the info screen was varying from 31 to 46 psi. She called me later and said one of the tires had a nail stuck in sidewall, and it was impossible to plug it, so it would have to be replaced. I told her to contact the dealer and see if the tires were covered under warranty. She asked the person on staff and was told because the tire wasn't defective, we would have to cover the cost of the replacement. I had read this forum before this happened and had already contemplated putting new tires on the Highlander in the first place, but my wife didn't know that. Unaware, she agreed to $350 to replace ONE of the Toyo tires. I was livid. In any case, I could swear I remember hearing something about the tires being covered under warranty for 30,000 miles regardless of the reason for failure. Does anyone know about this? I'm I just mistaken and/or frustrated I just paid $350 for a lame tire? Thanks, Gusto
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Replying to: mcgusto (May 21, 2009 3:35 pm) 1. No, that is not covered by standard warranties for most tires. That is "Road Hazard" warranty coverage. 2. You was robbed. The tire should have cost about $235 plus balancing. Not cheap, but about 30% less than what you paid. 3. You should check you tire pressure when the tires are cold and keep them all within a range of 1-2 psi. This will improve gas milage and handling. |
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Replying to: mcgusto (May 21, 2009 3:35 pm) My "driving conditions" are that I live in an area of northern CA where the roads are pretty curvy and I live on one of those roads. Seems to me like a defect in manufacturing if people who live on curvy roads can anticipate only 1/4 of the mileage rating. Anyone have any luck getting coverage under the tire warranty for something like this? So much for my green reasons for spending the extra money on this car. Four tires to dispose of after only 15,000 miles is a pretty bad environmental impact. I've replaced with the only other tire my trusted tire people could get - the Bridgestone Dueler. Also told by dealer to keep them slightly over inflated. Hope that works. |
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Replying to: stevegold (Mar 05, 2009 7:06 pm)
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Replying to: jeffb7 (Jun 09, 2009 6:20 am) At my Toyota dealership the first guy I talked tried to insinuate I was a drag racer. I stood my ground and insisted it was unacceptable for tires rated to 50k to wear out so soon. He shrugged and brought out a mechanic. This next guy was the only one who didn't say it was my fault or start spouting arcane metrics about tread wear and conditions. He said flat out, "Toyota knows it's a problem and Goodyear knows it's a problem. I've been in meetings where we told them we were seeing unusual tread wear in these tires. It's the elephant in the room no one wants to talk about." Toyota sent me back to Goodyear. Sigh. So back I went. There I repeated that even if I did everything wrong- low pressure, misalignment, lead foot, ok maybe I might not make to 50k maybe only 40k even 35k BUT 18k???? I was polite but also wasn't going away so he called the main office. They offered me the following deal: Two thirds off their list price of the Integrity- $142 reduced to $53. Free balancing etc. I opted to upgrade to their Assurance Fuel Max and pay the difference of $7. I found it interesting that they made a point of refusing to say WHY they were offering me this deal. Can anyone say "Class Action?" |
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I have absolutely no complaints about my '08 Highlander Hybrid (and this is my first Toyota experience ) *except* the tire issue- it is a big issue however. My Toyo A20's have about 17,500 miles now and need to be replaced. I have had the tires rotated at the 5k intervals and done everything by the book. I was about to get the Bridgestone Duelers when the service rep mentioned that some of the Prius owners had reported getting 5 miles per gallon less than the stock tires (Michelins) and this could occur if I got the Duelers. That get's a guy thinking.... Add to that the fact that the neither the A20's nor the Duelers have a mileage warrantee (from a Toyota dealer at least) and a guy thinks even more. I ordered instead the Toyo HTs with 60,000 the mileage warrantee with the optional road hazard coverage from Les Schwab and take my chances. I am very disappointed at Toyota though. Do they really expect owners to toss in $1k every 18 months for new tires? Consumer Reports also has taken note of the problem even after giving the highlander a top grade. *sigh* |
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