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#62 of 102
Re: 2007 HH burning thru tires [sven44] by jking3
Jul 07, 2008 (8:01 am)
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Replying to: sven44 (Jul 07, 2008 7:48 am)

Something is wrong with your car, take it to another dealer. It sounds like the 4 wheel alignment is wrong on your front tires. Perhaps they are both angling (toe) in and canceling each-other out, which lets you drive straight but wears out the tire. I replaced all four tires on my Highlander with the same Yokohama Avid H4S and so far I am extremely pleased with them. They are much quieter than the crappy Integrity tires, have FAR superior traction and FAR superior treadwear. I don't see any noticable tire wear on them at all yet. They should last 40-50k miles even with the electric motor pulling on them.
 
It is true, hybrids use up tires more quickly due to their low-end electric torque. Nobody told me about this when I bought it. It totally negates the reason why one would buy a hybrid in the first place - if I am putting twice as many tires into landfill as before how is that helping the environment?
 
I'm really upset at Toyota in general for putting such a horrendous tire (the Goodyear Integrity) on the car as factory stock. It LOOKS like some Highlanders get Michelin Energy tires. I'm sure we are all feeling the same pain. I wonder if we shouldn't file a class action suit for these defective Goodyear Integritys. They are obviously NOT able to live up to their 460 treadwear. I think they are mislabeled entirely. As far as I am concerned the treadwear rating in the Goodyear Integrity is 200. We should all get our money back for the Goodyear Integrity we have had to replace.
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Re: 2007 HH burning thru tires [jking3] by mk3172
Jul 07, 2008 (4:57 pm)
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Replying to: jking3 (Jul 07, 2008 8:01 am)

Similar experience with the Integrity. I'm down to the wear marks at less than 16,000 miles. Alignment appears good - no uneven wear. Anyone have a recommendation on best replacement tires from a gas mileage standpoint?
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Re: 2007 HH burning thru tires [mk3172] by lenster1
Jul 08, 2008 (7:55 pm)
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Replying to: mk3172 (Jul 07, 2008 4:57 pm)

Interesting topic!
Lots of discussion on this one on http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/f31/
 
I have a similar problem regarding the Michelin tires. 30,000 was all I could get
Michelin actually gave me credit towards a replacment set of Michelins of same tire but I declined. They do not make another tire to fit at this time. Some have mentioned getting a lot more mileage than I, though some have not.
 
On the GoodyeasrIntegritys some are able to get credit from Goodyear toward replacement tires.
You may want to inquire about it. Put your credit to the Fortera's for now. Until a better tire can be found!
 
I did go with the Goodyear Fortera Triple Treads. nice tire and has a treadwear warranty of 60,000. Not sure if it will hold up but I will have to wait and see and it does have the warranty.
 
My Michelin tires did wear more on the outer edge but most of the tread was down to 4/32 after 30,000.
 
I contacted Toyota. They basicly took my information, gave me a case # and did nothing! Why are they even putting these tires on this vehicle!
 
I am very dissapoined in this vehicle for this issue!
 
Will I actually have to but tires every 30k?
 
By the way I have a friend who has the RX350 with the same Michelin tire. His lasted 28k. Dealer told him the Michelins are made of a softer compound, are a car tire, softer compound gives better ride but you will have to replace the tires more often! What!
Class action lawsuit would be great if we could do it!
 
Lenny
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Re: 2007 HH burning thru tires [lenster1] by jking3
Jul 09, 2008 (5:06 am)
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Replying to: lenster1 (Jul 08, 2008 7:55 pm)

I'm sure they will only give you credit if you buy other Goodyear tires - something I will never do...
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Re: 2007 HH burning thru tires [jking3] by cdptrap
Jul 09, 2008 (7:44 am)
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Replying to: jking3 (Jul 09, 2008 5:06 am)

Thanks for posting this experience, we will watch what happens on our 2006 HH.
 
We switched from the Integrity to the "Fortera Silent Armor". They wore well and I calculated that they would have lasted to about 48K miles. We do a mix of on-road (65%) and dirt ranch road (35%). Unfortunately, two tires were punctured at around 35K miles, one by a nail, another by a screw. Both seemed perfectly fine with very slow loss of air, both could hold tire pressure for quite a while and still had plenty of tread left but it was winter and we decided it was not worth the risk. My wife replaced all four with the "Fortera Triple Tread" and they seem fine so far (knock on wood).
 
Our dedicated winter tires are the Nokian SUV WR.
 
Good luck with the new tires! Hope they last their stated life span.
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Re: 2007 HH burning thru tires [mk3172] by rodonnell
Jul 14, 2008 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: mk3172 (Jul 07, 2008 4:57 pm)

I will repeat from a previous post. I have the Michelin Energy LX4 on my 07 HH. Currently have 63,000 miles on them, figure I have another 10,000 left. The fronts are getting close to the end of useful life. Probably would have done much better had I rotated them every 5K. I would definately get another set of the same. $150.00 mounted and balanced at Costco is not a bad price either.
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Re: 2007 HH burning thru tires [rodonnell] by lenster1
Jul 15, 2008 (5:29 am)
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Replying to: rodonnell (Jul 14, 2008 1:03 pm)

Now tell us how you managed to get that kind of mile age out of those tires?
2007 with 63,000 miles. Thats a lot of driving.
What do you keep your tire pressure at?
Do you live in a mild climate area?
Flat roads not many hills?
Driving style?
#69 of 102
Re: 2007 HH burning thru tires [lenster1] by rodonnell
Jul 15, 2008 (10:58 am)
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Replying to: lenster1 (Jul 15, 2008 5:29 am)

about 4,000 miles a month. A ton of driving.
 
I keep the tires at the factory recommended 32 PSI, along with maintaining the rest of the car at factory specifications. I rotated the tires once at 10,000 miles, but noticed no different wear patterns so neglected to continue with the rotation schedule. Perhaps I should have as I now notice the fronts have just a little less tread than the rear.
 
Most of my driving is on the interstate, (I-95) in and out of Washington DC. I would consider this a mild climate area.
 
I have noticed no discernable difference in performance caused by weather variations.
 
My driving style is dictated by the road conditions and the other traffic. Usually stop and go, separated by periods of very fast (80MPH+) runs. Getting a solid 25 MPG.
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HH tires by brioboy
Jul 15, 2008 (1:40 pm)
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I am far from rodonnell's driving and have only about 22,000 km on my 06 HH. I thought his gas consumption was rather high but when I did the conversions from US gallons to Cdn gallons, its about right. I just filled up with 55.435 Litres $1.471/L which converts to almost 31 miles/Cdn gal and about 25.5 miles/US gal. For my Americans friends, the cost converts to $6.68/Cdn gal or $5.60/US gal. You can find the conversions on www.vancouvergasprices.com a division of gasbuddy.com.
I, too, have the Michelin tires but keep them at about 34 psi, which works fine, winter and summer, driving to Whistler on the sea-to-sky highway.
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Re: 2007 HH burning thru tires [mk3172] by mk3172
Jul 17, 2008 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: mk3172 (Jul 07, 2008 4:57 pm)

Update on Goodyear Integrity issue. Complained to Goodyear and through dealer they are offering $85 per tire credit on replacements. Looking at Fortera TripleTreds (wanted Silent Armor, but no one can find them in California). TripleTreds are at $200 a piece, which seems high, but isn't so bad with the credit. Anyone with insight on difference between the TripleTreds and SilentArmor?

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