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To all 2007 HH 4 wheel drive owners, I also have had abnormal treadwear on my 2007 HH. I originally purchased the HH for my wife on Jan 23rd, 2007 to cart the kids to and from school and to sporting events, etc...this was the basis for the hybrid decision. Unfortunately, the original Goodyear Integrity tires on the front of the HH wore down to the cords after just 13,316 miles. The rears still had approx 60% tread remaininig. I took it back to the original dealer just 9 months later on Oct 24 2007 and the GM said this is a HH torque issue that he is aware of because his wife has the same vehicle with the same type of issue. The dealership offered to replace 2 tires at no cost if I purchased 2 new tires myself. I said yes as long as I could choose the tires and approve the final price. I chose Yokohama Avid H4s tires, balanced and 4 wheel drive alignment for $379. Well, after just 8 months and 13K miles on the Yokohamas I had to replace the front tires once again just last week. The front tread was down to about 20% remaining and the rear down to about 60%. Based on these results it has to be something to do with the vehicle just as the GM of the Toyota dealership had informed me. The front wheels are wearing down twice as fast as the rear making this SUV uneconomical. If I have to spend approx $650 once a year to get 15K miles out of my tires rather than $650/yr for about 45K + miles out of my tires like I have on my Toyota Avalan and Lexus GS400 before that, than I don't want this vehicle. Is it possible that they corrected this in the new body style and the 2007 was more of a concept SUV or bridge product until to the new 2008 HH came out? Why only one year with the original Body Style? I have a feeling there are a lot of folks out there with this issue and we will hear more and more about it as they put mileage on them. Please let me know if you have had similar issues or if you've had no issues at all? I would really like to get to the bottom of this right away. Thanks, Sven 44
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Replying to: sven44 (Jul 07, 2008 6:48 am) It is true, hybrids use up tires more quickly due to their low-end electric torque. Nobody told me about this when I bought it. It totally negates the reason why one would buy a hybrid in the first place - if I am putting twice as many tires into landfill as before how is that helping the environment? I'm really upset at Toyota in general for putting such a horrendous tire (the Goodyear Integrity) on the car as factory stock. It LOOKS like some Highlanders get Michelin Energy tires. I'm sure we are all feeling the same pain. I wonder if we shouldn't file a class action suit for these defective Goodyear Integritys. They are obviously NOT able to live up to their 460 treadwear. I think they are mislabeled entirely. As far as I am concerned the treadwear rating in the Goodyear Integrity is 200. We should all get our money back for the Goodyear Integrity we have had to replace.
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Replying to: jking3 (Jul 07, 2008 7:01 am)
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Replying to: mk3172 (Jul 07, 2008 3:57 pm) Lots of discussion on this one on http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/f31/ I have a similar problem regarding the Michelin tires. 30,000 was all I could get Michelin actually gave me credit towards a replacment set of Michelins of same tire but I declined. They do not make another tire to fit at this time. Some have mentioned getting a lot more mileage than I, though some have not. On the GoodyeasrIntegritys some are able to get credit from Goodyear toward replacement tires. You may want to inquire about it. Put your credit to the Fortera's for now. Until a better tire can be found! I did go with the Goodyear Fortera Triple Treads. nice tire and has a treadwear warranty of 60,000. Not sure if it will hold up but I will have to wait and see and it does have the warranty. My Michelin tires did wear more on the outer edge but most of the tread was down to 4/32 after 30,000. I contacted Toyota. They basicly took my information, gave me a case # and did nothing! Why are they even putting these tires on this vehicle! I am very dissapoined in this vehicle for this issue! Will I actually have to but tires every 30k? By the way I have a friend who has the RX350 with the same Michelin tire. His lasted 28k. Dealer told him the Michelins are made of a softer compound, are a car tire, softer compound gives better ride but you will have to replace the tires more often! What! Class action lawsuit would be great if we could do it! Lenny
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Replying to: lenster1 (Jul 08, 2008 6:55 pm)
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Replying to: jking3 (Jul 09, 2008 4:06 am) We switched from the Integrity to the "Fortera Silent Armor". They wore well and I calculated that they would have lasted to about 48K miles. We do a mix of on-road (65%) and dirt ranch road (35%). Unfortunately, two tires were punctured at around 35K miles, one by a nail, another by a screw. Both seemed perfectly fine with very slow loss of air, both could hold tire pressure for quite a while and still had plenty of tread left but it was winter and we decided it was not worth the risk. My wife replaced all four with the "Fortera Triple Tread" and they seem fine so far (knock on wood). Our dedicated winter tires are the Nokian SUV WR. Good luck with the new tires! Hope they last their stated life span. |
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Replying to: mk3172 (Jul 07, 2008 3:57 pm) |
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Replying to: rodonnell (Jul 14, 2008 12:03 pm) 2007 with 63,000 miles. Thats a lot of driving. What do you keep your tire pressure at? Do you live in a mild climate area? Flat roads not many hills? Driving style?
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Replying to: lenster1 (Jul 15, 2008 4:29 am) I keep the tires at the factory recommended 32 PSI, along with maintaining the rest of the car at factory specifications. I rotated the tires once at 10,000 miles, but noticed no different wear patterns so neglected to continue with the rotation schedule. Perhaps I should have as I now notice the fronts have just a little less tread than the rear. Most of my driving is on the interstate, (I-95) in and out of Washington DC. I would consider this a mild climate area. I have noticed no discernable difference in performance caused by weather variations. My driving style is dictated by the road conditions and the other traffic. Usually stop and go, separated by periods of very fast (80MPH+) runs. Getting a solid 25 MPG. |
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I am far from rodonnell's driving and have only about 22,000 km on my 06 HH. I thought his gas consumption was rather high but when I did the conversions from US gallons to Cdn gallons, its about right. I just filled up with 55.435 Litres  $1.471/L which converts to almost 31 miles/Cdn gal and about 25.5 miles/US gal. For my Americans friends, the cost converts to $6.68/Cdn gal or $5.60/US gal. You can find the conversions on www.vancouvergasprices.com a division of gasbuddy.com. I, too, have the Michelin tires but keep them at about 34 psi, which works fine, winter and summer, driving to Whistler on the sea-to-sky highway. |
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