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#11 of 73 Re: TCH Brakes? [berg32]
Jun 18, 2006 (7:09 am)
Today's NY Times (6-18-06, Auto Section, p18), says Road & Track ranks the TCH among worst for stopping distance from 60 mph.
June 18, 2006
By SHAUN BAILEY
In its tests of new cars, Road & Track magazine routinely measures stopping distances from 60 miles an hour. The following lists include the best and worst results reported within the last four years in the magazine's Road Test Summary. All of the cars had antilock braking systems.
Modern passenger cars have such powerful brake systems that in a panic stop, when the driver slams on the brake pedal, there are two possible outcomes:
In a car without antilock brakes, the wheels will lock up. From a cruising speed of 60 m.p.h., a car with locked brakes will slide nearly 200 feet. An aware and skilled driver can avoid lock-up and modulate brake pressure to achieve distances closer to 150 feet.
In a car with antilock brakes, the distance can usually be shortened to 130 feet or less. When the antilock system is activated, a modern car's stopping distance has more to do with the tires than with the size of the brake rotors. Sedans with all-season tires do not stop as well as sports cars with high-performance tires that provide more grip.
When it was tested 21 years ago, a Honda Civic without antilock brakes stopped in 166 feet from 60 m.p.h. And while a more recent Civic EX (with an antilock system) had one of the worst performances in Road & Track tests over the last two years, it still managed, at 133 feet, an impressive 20 percent improvement over the old Honda.
It is also noteworthy that a Mazda RX-8 stops nearly as well as some superexotic sports cars. The Mazda's braking benefits from sticky tires, antilock technology and a lightweight chassis. SHAUN BAILEY
Aston Martin V-8 Vantage 107 ft.
Ferrari F430 Spider 107 ft.
Lotus Exige 107 ft.
Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 107 ft.
Porsche Boxster S 107 ft.
Porsche 911 Carrera S 108 ft.
Ferrari Enzo 109 ft.
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 109 ft.
Maserati Quattroporte 109 ft.
Mazda RX-8 110 ft.
Ford Escape XLT 145 ft.
Volkswagon Passat 3.6 138 ft.
Volvo S60 T5 138 ft.
Cadillac CTS 138 ft.
Audi A3 2.0 T. 138 ft.
Mitsuibishi Eclipse GT 137 ft.
Toyota Camry Hybrid 136 ft.
Subaru Legacy GT Limited 135 ft.
Scion xB 134 ft.
Honda Civic EX 133 ft.
#12 of 73 Re: TCH Brakes? [gc77584]
Jun 18, 2006 (7:24 am)
It appears to me that being in the "worst" category simply means you're in the non sporting class of cars. The list of other cars in this category is impressive. I'm not sure I would intrepret this "worst" rating as bad.
#13 of 73 Re: TCH Brakes? [berg32]
Jun 19, 2006 (12:08 pm)
The HSD system runs the braking system through the central computer, which works out the needs of regernerative braking vs. stopping distance. I think Toyota needs to revamp their system to increase braking in panic stops.
On a conventional car, the braking system is independent of everything except the brake petal and the antilock braking systems.
In essense, the HSD has two functions to braking, while conventional cars just, well, brake.
#14 of 73 Re: Overly Sensitive Brakes [jacqo711]
Dec 03, 2006 (6:27 am)
I experienced center-console sqeaks. My dealer finally corrected the problem but it needed numerous visits to the
service center. And yes the brakes are very sensitive but I
feel secure with them. Overall it is to this day the best car I ever owned.
#15 of 73 TCH brake noise
Jan 15, 2007 (7:44 am)
I have a slight brake noise during my first couple of stops in my TCH. I contacted the dealer. They said Toyota recgognizes this as a problem. The dealer is installing a company supplied fix tomorrow. FYI.
#16 of 73 Re: TCH brake noise [lessachs]
Jan 25, 2007 (6:53 pm)
Did you get the fix? What was it? I am noting noise also, esp after rain or snow. Since I have already had the car in to fix the center console noise, replace the transmission (at 2600 mi.) I am getting tired of taking the car in for all these things. I wonder if Toyota is going to publicize the "fix" for the brakes.
#17 of 73 Re: TCH brake noise [lungdoc63]
Feb 19, 2007 (8:05 am)
I got the fix. The dealer said my brake squeak problem
was well known by Toyota. They installed some sort of manufacture supplied fix kit. Only problem? Brakes still squeak..worse than before. So its back to the dealer again
#18 of 73 Re: TCH brake noise [lessachs]
Feb 21, 2007 (7:11 am)
I went back to the dealer. Toyota told them to replace all my brakes pads. So, it's back again in the near future to try this fix.
#19 of 73 Brake Noise
Mar 09, 2007 (1:21 pm)
I have a noise when backing out of my garage each morning (that's about the only time I back up). I hesitate to call it a whine or squeal because the pitch is lower than that but higher than a groan. I have 8K on the car and just had it in for an oil change but forgot to ask about it. I'm going to email the service department and ask about it.
#20 of 73 Re: Brake Noise [dmhltd1]
Mar 09, 2007 (3:14 pm)
I've got it too. It's definitely not a brake squeal sound. It'll be brought up later this month at service time. Unfortunately, it's intermittent, which sometimes makes diagnosis difficult.