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Re: Temperature Gauge [cs0729]
by ray80
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Jan 25, 2007 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: cs0729 (Jan 25, 2007 7:44 am)
I did a little looking around and found another owner that had same symptoms. Turned out to be stuck open thermostat. In that case it cost them $500 even with extended warranty due to multiple trips ($100 deductible per trip) and other parts being replaced (most likely when they didn't have to be). Also be aware another owner changed their at the expense of 5 1/2 hours and a bottle of iodine for skinned knuckles to save $300 shop wanted for replacement of $10 part. Good luck
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Re: Temperature Gauge [ray80]
by cs0729
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Jan 26, 2007 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: ray80 (Jan 25, 2007 8:43 am)
Thank you so much. I remember when it was easy to diagnose a bad thermostat. Think I can afford a little frustration and a bottle of iodine! Will try your suggestion and let you know if we survive. Thanks again.
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Re: Temperature Gauge [cs0729]
by dallasaztek
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Feb 01, 2007 (4:55 am)
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Replying to: cs0729 (Jan 26, 2007 6:00 am)
Hey I would like to ask you how you survived? I am having the same problem with the thermostat in my Aztek. How did you get to the thermostat? I have already flushed it and now they are telling me I might need to replace the thermostat. All I can say "Please Help".
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Re: Temperature Gauge [dallasaztek]
by ray80
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Feb 01, 2007 (5:08 am)
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Replying to: dallasaztek (Feb 01, 2007 4:55 am)
I did some looking around and found a procedure from service manual, doesn't look all the difficult, but thats on paper:
'Removal
1. Remove the air cleaner and duct assembly (duct that attaches to the throttle body)
2. Drain the coolant until the level is below the thermostat (use the radiator petcock for that).
3. Remove the crossover exhaust pipe.
4. Remove the radiator hose from the housing.
5. Remove the thermostat housing and gasket.
6. Remove the thermostat.
7. Clean the mating surfaces of the block and the thermostat housing.
Install
1. Install the thermostat into the engine block.
2. Install the thermostat housing and gasket. I would replace this gasket. They are pretty cheap and best not to re-use the old one and have a leak.
3. Install the thermostat housing bolts. Tighten bolts to 25 Nm (18 lb ft). This is critical as the housing is just made out of aluminum and you would not want to warp it and create a leak.
4. Install the radiator house to the thermostat housing.
5. Install the exhaust crossover pipe. The studs and nuts are tighten to 25 Nm (18 lb ft). The heat shield bolts are tighten to 10 Nm (89 lb in).
6. Install the air cleaner assembly and duct. Now would be a great time to replace the air filter if you need to.
7. Fill the cooling system, per procedure in the Owner's Manual. After you have filled it, use the air bleeding procedure to remove the excess air from the system. You may have to readjust the level by adding coolant and re-bleed the system after a couple days of driving to burp the air out of the system.' good luck
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Re: Temperature Gauge [ray80]
by dallasaztek
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Feb 01, 2007 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: ray80 (Feb 01, 2007 5:08 am)
thanks for the help. you said you got it from a 'service manual" is their a way i can get to this online where it might display any pictures? if not thats ok. I appreciate this info, you are the only one that has given me an answer. Everywhere else they say "we charge $95 to even look at it, plus labor and parts". I could save my $95 fix it myself and still have $ left over to buy and bandages i might need for my fingers after i get this done. again thanks and hopefully you do have some pictures. you can email me to nancyholguin129 sbcglobal.net.
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Re: Temperature Gauge [dallasaztek]
by ray80
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Feb 01, 2007 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: dallasaztek (Feb 01, 2007 7:26 am)
Unfortunately I don't believe it is online anywhere, and I don't have the service manual, just copied the procedure. Sorry but the verbage is all I have.
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Re: Temperature Gauge [ray80]
by steve_ HOST
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Feb 01, 2007 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: ray80 (Feb 01, 2007 7:58 am)
Sometimes you can find diagrams at the repair guide section of AutoZone. Or you can pay for access to alldatadiy.com. Or your local library may subscribe to Alldata or the Auto Repair Reference Center guide.
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All kinds of trouble with my 01 Aztek
by brooke71832
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Feb 15, 2007 (7:04 pm)
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First, my temperature gauge quit working, so my service engine light came on and it makes the cooling fan (which has never come on before) come on after i turn off the engine and it makes a gurgling sound. Second, while traveling at 60 mph my car runs at 3000 rpms it doesn't shift out. Third, about every 3000 miles the low engine oil level comes on and I'm about 1 1/2 or 2 quarts low. Its not leaking on the ground and it doesn't smoke so I don't know where its going. If anyone has any answers or suggestions please help.
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Re: All kinds of trouble with my 01 Aztek [brooke71832]
by ray80
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Feb 16, 2007 (5:40 am)
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Replying to: brooke71832 (Feb 15, 2007 7:04 pm)
Hhmm could be various problems. A stuck open thermostat can cause the temp gauge to appear not to be working and also the ses light. The most common thing for possible oil loss (and coolant loss) on these is lower intake manifold gasket leaking.
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Re: All kinds of trouble with my 01 Aztek [ray80]
by littlemsrodeo
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May 25, 2007 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: ray80 (Feb 16, 2007 5:40 am)
In reply to the temp gauge...my 2003 just did this a week ago, overheated, light came on, then service engine light. Took it to repair shop and they said it was the thermostat. Couldn't keep coolant in the overflow. Took it to a local repair shop who found that the intake gaskets were leaking...not the termostat.Radiator was bone dry 1 day after filling. So, they replaced the lower intake manifold gaskets, flushed and refilled the coolant (not dexcool this time), and a complete tune up ($605.00 later)...problem fixed! Now...2 days later, ABS light is on and computer says it is LR wheel speed sensor. So we have it replaced ($375.00 later) and it only fixed the problem for 2 hours...light back on and we take it back to the shop, now they think it is wiring problem???
We bought our Aztek new in 2003 and started having problems that same year...so many problems in fact that we filed lemon law on it, and GM agreed it was a lemon . Only problem was GM wanted me to pay a usage fee to "buy it back"...that was like $2800.00 which I didn't have ...so we kept the vehicle, bad move!!! The car spent over 68 days in the shop the first year! Nothing but problems since then...brakes (3 times in one year), hubs (3), rotors (3 times), tires (2 sets), coolant leak, battery, rear hatch, Check engine light, SES, ABS, paint peeling (in 2003, no less), gas gage, bearings, gets stuck in park (daily), radio light is failing, tranny problems, electrical...and the list goes on and on!
So many of the same things that are noted by tons of customers on this site alone...how can they (GM) get away with this???
Seems like we could all get together and file a class action suit or something!
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