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23 messages, Last post on Mar 29, 2007 at 7:25 AM
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Replying to: rake2 (Mar 27, 2006 2:15 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Mar 28, 2006 7:25 am) |
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Replying to: rake2 (Mar 28, 2006 1:06 pm) Considering what people like about Lucerne, and to fit the need, it is really best they keep the Lucerne as is. RWD would be a mistake. It is cheaper to build FWD, some need it for snow country, or don't know or care about the difference. The HP is not an issue, so why not use old Betsy. Add up the price they can get for this car, compared to components, GM may be making some profit here. It has size, comfort, and looks a little newer -- that is what people are looking for in a Buick. The LaCrosse may not be catching on with the Buick crowd. Looks OK, but maybe not enough headroom in back, or something. Seems like a different game than the rest of the car industry - different consumers. -Loren |
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Replying to: rake2 (Mar 28, 2006 1:06 pm) The future of the large FWD sedan at GM is probably in flux right now. The Chrysler 300, Dodge Magnum and Charger are selling at double the rate that GM's large FWD sedans are selling at.
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Replying to: sls002 (Mar 28, 2006 3:03 pm) I don't know how summer tires on FWD compare to summer tires on RWD. I would assume with same tires the FWD would have better traction. Most cars have an all-weather tire on them. Those will do better with FWD in my experience. FWD has the weight of the motor and transmission on the drive wheels. Assuming equal tread on tires that has to work better on the typical car. If you start comparing higher ground clearance vehicles, you're going to get a different reaction. The problem with cars is the snow piling up under the car lifting it in some situations and taking contact away from the tires. I grew up in snow areas and had that happen sometimes. I carried a shovel in the trunk to dig under the wheels and axle to get the car to move backwards out of the snowdrift. And locked differential is a dangerous thing also because both rear wheels can slip at the same time letting the car move sideways on a curve. With FWD I can back up with the traction unless the car is run up onto a drift hard. |
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Replying to: sls002 (Mar 28, 2006 3:03 pm)
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Replying to: sirius2 (Apr 01, 2006 1:52 pm) The C & D test was done some time ago and is no longer on their website, but here is something newer: http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=27&article_id=3467 |
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I do not know what GM is planning for the large sedan. Currently, the Bonneville and the entire Oldsmobile division (which had some large FWD sedans) are dead. The LeSabre and Park Avenue are now one model, the Lucerne. The DTS (old DeVille) is selling less and less. What I do not like about the FWD cars that I have owned, (the 95 Riviera, the 98 Aurora and now the 2002 Seville) is that they drag their noses on the pavement when the driveways are a bit steeper than ususal. I try to avoid these driveways, but that is not always possible. RWD cars, like the 300, have less front overhang.
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Replying to: sls002 (Mar 27, 2006 7:49 am) So once the tires are moved foward the approach angle gets much greater and no more rubbing. It also depends on what is rubbing. Fascia is lower due to styling or aero if that is what is rubbing. Nothing to do with FWD/RWD |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Mar 27, 2006 7:58 am) Rear Wheel Drive cars have generally had the front wheels closer to the front bumpers. The transaxle design of FWD moved them back. |
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