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Re: Lucerne vs Camry [tjc78]
by sls002
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Mar 16, 2006 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 15, 2006 4:55 pm)
I looked at the dealer inventory around here (online), and found list prices range from $33,000 to $35,000, depending on options. With a few options, the price will be around $32,000 or so. Some listed at $33,000 with a sunroof, so without sunroof the price could be less. Without a trade in, the sticker price is probably negotiable. Leasing is not something I know about, but since BMW's don't depreciate in the first year  , they may be the best lease.
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Re: Lucerne vs Camry [robchemist]
by navigator89
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Mar 16, 2006 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: robchemist (Mar 16, 2006 9:29 am)
It isnt really a silly discussion. An interior should reflect the amount of money put into the car, and it should be either at par for the money, or better. But there are times when you have a chance to look at the interior of your car. How about when you are waiting for someone, waiting in traffic and at red lights, or parked.
The interior discussion is also something which makes people look forward to driving their car. I know I would really look forward to a car with a nice interior, such as the new Impala, compared to the old Impala. Or the LeSabre compared to the Lucerne.
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- #75 of 92
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Re: Lucerne vs Camry [navigator89]
by 1487
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Mar 16, 2006 (2:47 pm)
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Replying to: navigator89 (Mar 16, 2006 10:35 am)
Really ergonomics are more important than interior quality. To some degree material quality is subjective anyway so it's hard to get a consensus on a certain vehicle's interior design. I dont believe there are many "bad" interiors on the market today. Some are more dull than others but compared to what was offered 10 or more years ago I think most vehicles today are fine. I definitely dont see a huge gap between GM products and Toyota products in 2006. Many people love the Avalon's interior but I find it kind of cheesy. I dont like the silly door that hides the radio, I dont like how the dash has two different levels and I dont like all the fake metallic trim that will eventually rub off after years of use. It's too over the top and reminds me of Buicks and Oldsmobiles from the 90s.
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Re: Lucerne vs Camry [1487]
by priggly
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Mar 16, 2006 (11:00 pm)
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Replying to: 1487 (Mar 16, 2006 2:47 pm)
I dont like the silly door that hides the radio, I dont like how the dash has two different levels and I dont like all the fake metallic trim that will eventually rub off after years of use.
You are right, the interior of the new Avalon is a mess. I do not find it attractive at all. Acres and acres of fake metallic trim. The little doors are not merely annonying, they are also subject to malfunction: jamming, failing to open, etc. Just check the Avalon board for stories of replacement of the "little doors." An ergonomic error. The interior of the Lucerne is far, far better.
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Re: Lucerne vs Camry [priggly]
by 62vetteefp
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Mar 17, 2006 (4:33 am)
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Replying to: priggly (Mar 16, 2006 11:00 pm)
I love the look of the Avalon doors. Makes the dash nice and smooth and uninterupted by small buttons and such. BUT, they will break and will mostly be open anyway so that the components can be used. Go ahead and cover up rarely accessed bins but the others will need to go away.
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Re: Lucerne vs Camry [1487]
by calhon
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Mar 17, 2006 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: 1487 (Mar 16, 2006 2:47 pm)
My sense is that styling preferences (contemporary, high-tech, traditional, clean, detailed), and "look and feel" are being presented under the guise of interior or material quality by much of the automotive press.
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Re: Lucerne vs Camry [calhon]
by pmerk28
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Mar 17, 2006 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: calhon (Mar 17, 2006 9:18 am)
My sense is that Lexus will always make fantastic interiors and GM interiors will always be quote "improving but still short of class leaders"
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Re: Benefits of Navigation
by vantheman1
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Mar 19, 2006 (5:27 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 15, 2006 4:55 pm)
I am buying a Lucerne CXS, and have determined all options except for the navigation. I do a lot of traveling in the northeast, and have always used mapquest for directions, which is actually pretty reliable....i am seeking comments of those who have had nav as to whether it is truly something they use, or whether it is just cool to have it....(it is an expensive option)....also comments on whether the new onstar directions makes the need for nav moot, or at least makes worth considering which would be more user friendly and thus more valuable....finally, i test drove an acura last year and it had a system where you could say out loud, "find the nearest starbucks" or "change CD to track 5" and it would tell you...now, that to me would be valuable....i am assuming that this lucerne system is not that advanced.let me know your thoughts...thank you
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Re: Benefits of Navigation [vantheman1]
by rake2
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Mar 19, 2006 (6:09 am)
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Replying to: vantheman1 (Mar 19, 2006 5:27 am)
If you haven't purchased it yet, I'm assuming one built since March with turn by turn navigation will be sufficient. You must make sure it has the Gen 7 On Star, however, as the dumb bleeps didn't put that version of equipment in until then. Just one of the reasons I feel that those of us who bought early got a little shafted by GM.
Turn by turn nav should enable you to get directions from OnStar downloaded to your car, and you will be prompted when to make turns. Won't need to look at screens, and if you get off course, it will tell you automatically how to get back on course. Also, I believe that OnStar in general will allow you to find the nearest restaurant or gas station by just hitting the button and asking the rep, although I haven't tried that yet to know for certain.
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Re: Benefits of Navigation [rake2]
by vantheman1
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Mar 19, 2006 (6:42 am)
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Replying to: rake2 (Mar 19, 2006 6:09 am)
thanks rake
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