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Buick Lucerne vs. Toyota Camry

92 messages,  Last post on May 22, 2007 at 7:32 PM

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Re: hello [exalteddragon1] by samchinch
Mar 15, 2006 (2:31 am)
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Replying to: exalteddragon1 (Mar 14, 2006 7:45 pm)

I'm telling you I drove both cars. The Lucerne drove like it was dead in the water compared to the Toyota Camry. I am 32 years old and I certainly know about speed and whether a car can get up and go and the Lucerne can definitely not get up and go. It is perfectly fine for the crowd it attracts but they wanted this car to be attractive to younger buyers and it certainly will not stand up. I'm not telling anyone to not buy the car nor am I telling them to buy it. Everyone has different things they look for in a car.
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Re: hello [fin] by samchinch
Mar 15, 2006 (2:35 am)
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Replying to: fin (Mar 14, 2006 9:17 pm)

I have test driven the Azera and let me tell you that is one fine car. The seats in that vehicle sit very nice. The powerplant is totally awesome in that you hit the gas pedal you are off. The only thing is it is made by Hyundai and with that name you are going to take a big hit in value right from the start they just depreciate way to fast.
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Re: hello [samchinch] by bruneau1
Mar 15, 2006 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: samchinch (Mar 15, 2006 2:35 am)

The seats in the Azera are vastly inferior to those in the Lucerne, even the base Lucerne. The Azera's seat cushion is too short, the adjustability of the driver power is limited in range, and the passenger seat is flat non-adjustable. I wouldn't want to travel very far in the Azera. As for the Lucerne's V6, not a race car for sure, but drive it with overdrive off until highway speeds and it performs just fine.
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Re: hello [bruneau1] by m1miata
Mar 15, 2006 (11:24 am)
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Replying to: bruneau1 (Mar 15, 2006 10:14 am)

Hyundai kinda jumped the gun. Seem far too early for them to consider the luxury car segment. This comes so close to the rebuilding era after a very shaky start in the US market. The Sonata seems like a more logical place to stop.
 
Perhaps the Lucerne, with a V8, will pick up some additional customer once the Caddy DTS goes RWD. Seems like there are those that prefer FWD, or feel it is better in snow country. Anyone here cross shopped the DTS and the Lucerne, then bought the Buick? The Buick is well liked in China, and if there are no more FWD big cars of luxury in the Cadillac line, those GM loyalist will be buying Buick. They name may just be saved, when many thought it to be the next to go. Now Pontiac, and its performance car image, one could say could also fit as well in the Chevy line. Hummm?
 
-Loren
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. by sls002
Mar 15, 2006 (7:28 am)
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Car & Driver has tested the 4 cylinder Camry. 0-60 is about 8.5 seconds, 0-110 is over 30 seconds. This may be somewhat quicker than a 3800 Lucerne. However, the V8 Lucerne on 0-110 is 7 seconds faster. But a 3.5 V6 in the Camry or Avalon will be much quicker than the V8 Lucerne. However, do we really need to zip from a standing start to 60 MPH in under 7 seconds
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Re: . [sls002] by 62vetteefp
Mar 15, 2006 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Mar 15, 2006 7:28 am)

I love power but on one side there are folks buying hybrids that save gas but will never pay back (unless gas gets up to over $4 for years) and those who say rooten tooten HP is more important. To each his own!!!!
 
My opinion is that few looking at standard Camrys or Lucernes care much about 0-60 or excessive HP. However both vehicles in their base engines better have enough pep to give a feeling of safety in performance. We have been here before and both do have plenty of Ummpp for almost all of the market they are after. If you want more HP the uplevel engines have plenty. If you want more go look at a performance vehicle.
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Re: . [62vetteefp] by imidazol97
Mar 15, 2006 (7:57 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Mar 15, 2006 7:55 am)

Well said.
 
Does the 4 cyl Camry have that much horsepower and torque or it is just geared so low that it gets a good 0-60 time? It must run out of steam at 80. My 3800 in leSabres is still going fine at 80; lots of torque left. Just need an invisibility shield from radar and laser to travel at that speed.
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Re: . [imidazol97] by splatsterhound
Mar 15, 2006 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Mar 15, 2006 7:57 am)

Bottom line: drive 'em! Test driving by the stat sheet is meaningless.
 
It wasn't that long ago that a car -- any car -- within a few hp of 200 ponies had some serious muscle. Now people complain that a car has 'only' 197 hp and more than 200 flb torque. Get real.
 
I drove the Lucerne v8 and the Avalon touring back to back. The lucerne had much better oomph off the line and a smoother transmission. The avalon really hauled when you gave it a couple seconds to wind up. But I personally find the quick power of the v8 more useful in real-world driving.
 
But everything is relative, isn't it? i learned to drive on a rusted VW van with, what?, 68 hp and a top speed of maybe 75.
 
I currently own an olds 88 with the 3800 v6 and the thing is an absolute rock. 175,000 miles on it now and the only things replaced: spark plugs (once), belts, a water pump at 155,000. That's all. It still gets 30-plus on the highway, it easily passes emissions tests, it can run at 90 mph without breathing hard and, most importantly, it has never ever failed to start or run smoothly. Will it win drag races with a Corvette? No. Do I care? No.
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Re: . [imidazol97] by 62vetteefp
Mar 15, 2006 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Mar 15, 2006 7:57 am)

Camrys 4 cylinder has a rooten tooten 158 hp and 161 torque.
 
Lucerne has 197 hp and 227 torque.
 
Lucerne weighs 3764, Camry weighs 3307.
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Re: . [sls002] by poncho167
Mar 15, 2006 (12:41 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Mar 15, 2006 7:28 am)

I believe the base Malibu with 4 cylinder is slightly quicker than the 4 cylinder Camery.

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