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Buick Lucerne vs. Toyota Avalon

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#59 of 88
Re: Quality Vehicle [trucker50] by rake2
Apr 24, 2006 (7:06 pm)
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Replying to: trucker50 (Apr 24, 2006 10:03 am)

Saw a Toyota commercial just tonight in which Toyota tries to do just that.
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Re: Quality Vehicle [rake2] by imidazol97
Apr 25, 2006 (4:17 am)
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Replying to: rake2 (Apr 24, 2006 7:06 pm)

Thank you for the report. Many people don't realize how their impressions and opinions are crafted by commercials.
 
Recall the Volvo thing from long ago, Strong, Safe, Quiet. They showed it hold up a full-sized Oldsmobile. THEN the word got out the roof had been reinforced!!!! HOOT HOOT.
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USA $$s Re: Quality Vehicle [m1miata] by rayainsw
Apr 25, 2006 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: m1miata (Apr 24, 2006 12:33 pm)

"Yes, it would be a good for money to end up in USA as its final destination. I assume they are thinking that as well in say England, where they no longer have the end money from say the Jaguar. "
 
Well, in that particular case, Jag has yet to send any money back to Ford world HQ - though Ford has sent Billions to invest in the UK. With negative return, so far.
 
My GM (Grand Prix) was assembled in Canada.
 
But where were the components made \ assembled? Like the transaxle that needed replacement at less than 6,000 miles?
 
Dunno.
But none of this will likely be an overriding influence on the brand or model of my next car . . . The degree of fit to my requirements and desires - and actual transaction price will be far more important.
 
And a Buick Lucerne GNX (or such) made most anywhere could interest me.
- Ray
Just 1 data point.
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Re: Quality Vehicle [imidazol97] by m1miata
Apr 25, 2006 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 25, 2006 4:17 am)

Well the Volvo of that era was indeed safer than an Oldsmobile. The commercial with plywood used to reinforce the roof, was a bad choice for Volvo to do. Really not good press there. Current crash test on LaCrosse went off well. Looks like Buicks have improved over the years on safety. Interesting to see test scores higher on a Sonata than a CTS. Ya never know until ya try. I hope the Lucerne does better than the Devilles. The four star rating doesn't look good. Now one does have to consider the heavier car wins, so a Sonata divided into a Deville may equal a Cadillac is left standing. Or perhaps not. And there are all types of crashes. Really, the test scores are so-so for this price range of car. Maybe they will have reinforced something in the new Lucerne/DTS chassis before the next run of the dummies. They are ever so close to a 5 star.
 
I think they could lower the price on V6 models, or at least offer one with more HP. I have seen some with $33K and the 197HP engine. Hummm? Maybe the V8 would be better at that price. Maybe I read the sticker wrong, and it was the V8, but I am pretty sure the model type matched.
-Loren
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Re: Quality Vehicle [m1miata] by kfriel
Apr 25, 2006 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: m1miata (Apr 25, 2006 10:12 am)

  • I have seen some with $33K and the 197HP engine. Hummm?

  • Loren,
    I agree, been looking everytime I see a Buick dealer. Where is this "mythical $29.9K" V8 CXL? Havent seen one yet.
    Kevin
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    Re: Quality Vehicle [kfriel] by imidazol97
    Apr 25, 2006 (10:59 am)
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    Replying to: kfriel (Apr 25, 2006 10:54 am)

    Have you priced one on Edmund's new car site?
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    Re: Quality Vehicle [kfriel] by 62vetteefp
    Apr 25, 2006 (11:06 am)
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    Replying to: kfriel (Apr 25, 2006 10:54 am)

    Base price on a V8 CXL is under $30k.
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    Re: Quality Vehicle [62vetteefp] by m1miata
    Apr 25, 2006 (11:45 am)
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    Replying to: 62vetteefp (Apr 25, 2006 11:06 am)

    How then are they so expensive on the lot?
    To order one under $30K would be the way to go!
     
    Or wait a year and get it for say $23K. Problem with that would be most are sold fully loaded. And side stickers is the American way.
    -Loren
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    Re: Quality Vehicle [m1miata] by 62vetteefp
    Apr 25, 2006 (12:56 pm)
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    Replying to: m1miata (Apr 25, 2006 11:45 am)

    Dealers order their own cars for their maximum profit for their market. At the start of production of a new model that is showing hot sales they will order more loaded vehicles that give more profit.
     
    In looking at a "base" CXL it is very nicely equipped. The options I would add are the XM/HK stereo system and the heated seats/power passenger seat/memory package which would add about $1400. About $29,400 total
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    Re: Quality Vehicle [kfriel] by sls002
    Apr 26, 2006 (6:38 am)
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    Replying to: kfriel (Apr 25, 2006 10:54 am)

    The CXL V8 with no options is about $30,000, well $10 less. However, I think at minimum, one would expect the luxury package. A sunroof will add more...
     
    So, a V8 will probably run about $32,000 to $35,000 for the CXL model. Most dealers will order them with the options that will make the cars sell. If you want one for under $30,000, the V6 will probably be the best choice, although one could order. I would think that a dealer would take about $30,000 for a CXL that is not loaded with too many options.

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