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#21 of 313 2003 Sonata Rear Rotors
Aug 27, 2008 (6:45 am)
Can anyone tell me the trick to removing the rear brake rotors. There are a set of brake shoes inside the rotor that is the emergency brake. My left rear rotor went bad and I had a miserable time getting it off. Now I have to tackle the passenger side. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
#22 of 313 Re: I have 2 Sonatas with that brake problem [thriveanne]
Aug 27, 2008 (11:01 am)
I'd originally posted this on Maintenence & Repair, probably better here.
Wondering if anyone else has experienced this ? I'd posted in July about the 'need' (?) to replace the rear brakes on my '07 GLS at 18,600 mi...I know . We began to hear the tell-tale metalic squeel primarily when turning the steering wheek to the right. Took it in and the mechanic and service guy indicated that the rears were worn down, mainly on the left. Being that I was hearing the noise too, which I knew to be the wear indicators and that my 19 yr old was driving the car mainly to her Summer job, I decided to have them replaced and the rotors turned. Since I'd had the car for 18 months there was little hope of having them replace under warranty. Between this and the 2 other Hyundai sites, I found a few other posts about this problem which seemed to indicate that in fact it might be a caliper or piston or rear pad issue needing an adjustment.
Today I took my '08 GLS, in service 8/15 last yr., in for the 34 point inspection, thanks HMC for the freebie coupon - and asked that they specifically check the brakes. Well...they found that the "rear brakes were sticking in slides causing glazing" they "freed the pads and machined the rotors" this time on the house
I insisted again that this wasn't normal especially for rear brakes and that there was some chatter on the internet message boards about what the problem might be.
The service guy, who seems to be a genuinely decent sort pulled up the brake job on the '07 from July, printed it out and offered to discuss the problem with the
RSM who comes in periodically to see what they "can do for me" I made sure to reiterate that I have 2 Sonatas and not just a 10 yr old Accent! He did acknowledge that the wear war on the low side of normal, I told him that he needs to look up to see the low side of normal for rear brakes.
So - has anyone experiences anything like this from either of these years ? or have another idea of what might be going on here ? On both cars the driving as about 75/25 city/hwy the 08 is garaged the 07 outside and I'm in W. PA w/4 season weather if it matters. We like both cars but this has me concerned.
#23 of 313 WARNING TO ALL 2006 and Newer Hyundai Owners
Dec 27, 2008 (6:54 pm)
Immediate Attention.....All Hyundai owners should check to see if their Emergency/Parking brakes work correctly.
All vehicles made after 2006, all Hyundai models, with the pull lever type of Emergency/Parking brake assemblies should be checked to see that their Emergency/Parking brakes work correctly.
Additionally, if you have had any rear brake work done on your vehicle that required removing the rear rotors or emergency/parking brake work done; more than likely...the service technicians did not repair it correctly...not repairing or making adjustments to your vehicle according to Hyundai Official Repair/Service manuals.
Apparently, someone dropped the ball at Hyundai Motor America and did not place a requirement for a force push/pull gauge on the Hyundai service departments.
Bottom line...all levels and all certifications of Service Techs, Field Service Engineers and Hyundai Representative do not have the necessary tools on-hand to perform EMERGENCY / PARKING BRAKE INSPECTION AND ADJUSTMENT PROCEDURES CORRECTLY, SO THEY SKIP THE OFFICIAL PROCEDURES.
Skipping these procedures could lead to emergency/parking brake drag when the brake lever is not set or the parking brake not functioning when you believe you have set the emergency/parking brake.
Step 1. Block the front tires so the vehicle will not roll.
Step 2. Raise the vehicle as if you were going to change the driverís side rear tire.
Step 3. Rotate driverís side tire while the brake is in the released position. If you feel any drag or hear a rubbing noise, your emergency/parking brake may be dragging. If you suspect dragging, lift the emergency/parking brake lever 1 click, if the drag feeling has intensified or you cannot move the wheel, then your emergency/parking brakes need to be adjusted.
Repeat the above steps on the passengerís side rear tire.
Now that you know your emergency/parking brakes are not dragging, check to see if the emergency/parking brake will hold the vehicle.
Step 1. While a driver is in the vehicle, release the emergency/parking brake lever.
Step 2. Pull the emergency/parking brake lever up 4 clicks from the released position. Be prepared to step on your normal brakes...Place the vehicle in drive...at idle speed...
Does the vehicle move?
If YES, Repeat the above step with the lever pulled up an additional click each time until you reach 8 clicks from the released position.
Make note when the emergency/parking brake actually holds the vehicle.
If your emergency/parking brakes do not hold the car when the lever is pulled 8 clicks from the released position (where the adjustment is check according to the official manuals and around 44 LBs of pull force maximum is need to raise the lever 8 clicks), then your emergency/parking brake is not adjusted correctly.
When you take your vehicle in to have your emergency/parking brakes adjusted...ask that you be allowed to see the technician use a force push/pull gauge during the inspection/adjustment procedures.
Additionally, if you identify a problem...please email Hyundai Motor America customer service at ConsumerAffairshmausa.com and have them document you issue...have them give you a case number.... this is the only way a TSB or recall will be issued, since the servicing departments are skipping the official inspection steps.
#24 of 313 Re: I have 2 Sonatas with that brake problem [jayess]
Mar 11, 2009 (4:59 pm)
My '07 GLS needed brakes at 11 months/ 21,000 miles - mostly highway driving - not a lot of stops. My Hyundai dealer says they have a chronic rust problem "in a high road salt environment" that causes the pads to stick in the corroded pad brackets. Mine were not releasing fully and were rubbing on the rotor. The dealer recommends a $130 procedure every 15,000 miles to disassemble the brakes, lube the slides and reassemble. Ridiculous if you ask me, but I've had it done twice because of noise. That costs you a penny a mile to keep your brakes functioning!
I've lived in "salty" Ohio over 30 years and never had to do this and I've driven lots of cars lots of miles. I replaced front pads and rotors on my 2000 Mazda Protege at 60,000 and 110,000 miles and rear shoes at 90,000. No lubing the slides in between, either!
#25 of 313 Re: I have 2 Sonatas with that brake problem [thriveanne]
Mar 13, 2009 (1:48 pm)
I bought a Sonata GLS in November of 2007. Two weeks ago, with just 14,400 miles on the odometer, the right rear brakes began to sqeak. Of course it went away with brake application. After it got really noisey I called the dealer and was told that the brakes build up rust due to the chemicals that are put on the roads in the winter. Then the red flag went up when he said, "Call me if the rear wheels are hot." Well they certainly were as they had been dragging for quite some time. No wonder my gas mileage had been going down. I took the carin to the dealer and they took all 4 wheels off and serviced the pads. I asked if this was covered under warranty and they said "NOT." Total cost $130. I then sent a letter to Hyundai Customer Service pointing out that this was a safety issue and not normal wear and tear. Well I could have saved the effort as they won't come up with a dime. I have had at least 30 cars in my lifetime and not one of them had rear brake problems this early like this 2008 Sonata. NEWS FLASH to Hyundai; They put stuff on the roads up here in northern Ohio to melt ice and snow. If I have to go back in in another 14,400 miles and have this service done again, then this will be the first and last Hyundai I ever buy. So much for their great warranty.
Mar 13, 2009 (3:13 pm)
Sticks - I'm certainly not defending Hyundai, but a friend of mine, to whom I had told this story, recently told me that his Honda dealer told him he had the same problem with his Accord. Is your dealer in Streetsboro? I give them credit for at least identifying the problem and recommending how to address it. The Service Manager is frustrated with it. I called Hyundai and they deny the problem.
#27 of 313 Re: [ayeu]
Mar 20, 2009 (2:26 pm)
Well I just left the Hyundai dealership in Streetsboro. Funny, no mention by Sheldon the service manager of this chronic problem to me. Sheldon did however want to repair the problem for $500.00. My brakes hung-up and now my rotors are scored so much so that they can't be turned. My car has 20,000 miles on it! I'll never buy a Hyundai again, and Great Lakes Hyundai should be investigated for not informing me as the customer of the ongoing problem.
#28 of 313 Hyundai brake pads.
Mar 21, 2009 (6:55 am)
Aveu- you guessed it right. It is the dealer in Streetsboro. When I contacted Hyundai Customer Service, they said that they only had a couple of inqueries about rust and pads. That is hard to believe. This isn't so much a problem with the dealer, as it is with Hyundai not standing behind their product.
Mar 21, 2009 (9:18 am)
I had the same problem with 2 of my 2007 Sonatas. My dealer fixed the problem at no charge to me. They said that there's always "rust" build up from our weather and that it just needed to be scraped. I've not had a problem with the brakes since they were fixed last winter.
#30 of 313 Re: I have 2 Sonatas with that brake problem [sticks57]
Jun 01, 2009 (10:00 am)
Same deal here with my 2007 Sonata in NH. Took it to a dealer because it was chirping and then I smelled a burning odor back by my left rear wheel. He said road salt was corroding the brakes. They were seeing a lot of these and have been complaining to Hyundai with no response. Cost me $400 to resurface rear rotors and replace pads (they also needed to service the front brakes). They said I need to get the rust ground off every 15,000. So I started checking online and discovered a number of similar complaints. This is a safety issue. I ended up filing a safety complaint with the Office of Defects Investigation (ODI)at theNHTA. I suggest you do the same.