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Re: BRAKE WARNING TO HYUNDAI OWNERS (ESP. IF YOU HAVE A SONATA) [jessc]
by espo35
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Oct 30, 2009 (7:48 am)
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Replying to: jessc (Oct 30, 2009 6:55 am)
I think you are being sold a bill of goods by the dealer who first inspected your brakes and is now telling you that Hyundai is "aware" of a problem. I think they blew it on the brake inspection. Techs often just look at the outer brake pads (which they can see without removing the wheel). Sometimes, the inner pad is worn a lot more than the outer one.
Sounds like they are just trying to cover their rears.
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- #122 of 153
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Re: BRAKE WARNING TO HYUNDAI OWNERS (ESP. IF YOU HAVE A SONATA) [espo35]
by djado_yotso
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Oct 30, 2009 (4:34 pm)
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Replying to: espo35 (Oct 30, 2009 7:48 am)
Espo35 I think you should read more carefully the post. The problem is not that much how fast they wore out (it is but not the big one) but the fact that one of the rear pads is gone down to metal while the other one is at least 50%. That is not normally functioning break system. And yes the same thing happened to me with brand new 07 Sonata at 2.5 years and 26k miles on it. So it happens and quite often on top of that. The 2 dealerships I went to said that this is a common problem for the Sonata and one more model. So es they know about it and I filed a complaint with the NHTSA
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Re: BRAKE WARNING TO HYUNDAI OWNERS (ESP. IF YOU HAVE A SONATA) [djado_yotso]
by cathandler
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Oct 30, 2009 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: djado_yotso (Oct 30, 2009 4:34 pm)
I had much the same issue as many of you and got it taken care of today. I was experiencing a squeal from the left rear wheel that went away when the brakes were applied. That same wheel would become noticeably hot to the touch after a lengthy drive. With 11,400 on the odometer of my '09 GLS 4cyl I arrived at the dealership with some trepidation. They determined that the brake was sticking and the pads were damaged. They replaced the pads, resurfaced the rotors, and lubricated the pins and slides, all at no charge under the factory warranty (they may have done more, but it wasn't specified in the paperwork I received.) The service writer advised me that premature rust was a big issue with the rear brake hardware due to the highly corrosive calcium chloride solution being applied to roads during the winter driving season; he said the front wheels splash the crud onto the rear wheels. That, plus the front brakes do 80% of the work so the rear brakes are particularly susceptible to this kind of chronic problem. I guess I consider myself lucky for having it done under warranty, but it looks like the brakes will be a money pit post-warranty unless materials less susceptible to road salt-related damage are developed by Hyundai or the aftermarket.
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- #124 of 153
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Re: BRAKE WARNING TO HYUNDAI OWNERS (ESP. IF YOU HAVE A SONATA) [djado_yotso]
by espo35
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Oct 31, 2009 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: djado_yotso (Oct 30, 2009 4:34 pm)
I'm in California so I don't deal with road salt or snow, either of which might cause a sliding caliper to bind.
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Re: BRAKE WARNING TO HYUNDAI OWNERS (ESP. IF YOU HAVE A SONATA) [jessc]
by jayess
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Nov 01, 2009 (5:38 am)
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Replying to: jessc (Oct 30, 2009 6:55 am)
I had a similar problem as I'd posted some time ago, also with an '07 Sonata. Started to hear the worn brake squeel sound at about 18.5K miles just ovet 1.5 yrs. The rears were worn down. Ultimately Hyundai reimbursed me in full for my initial cost to replace the rear brakes and turn the rotors. Then at 29.5K miles and just shy of 2.5 yrs they replaced the rears again - free - and resurfaced the rotors due to "excess wear".
Then on my '08 they machined the rear rotors since the pads were sticking in the slides an lubed everything up, free since I'd reminded them of the issue we had with the '07. Car was 1 yr and 10.5K miles
Jessc - I'm also purchased from a Pittsburgh area dealer - Cochran in Monroeville. My service advisor is 1st rate, he was the one who'd gone to the regional service mgr. and got me reimbursed...or maybe he was just playing good cop  ...either way I'm very satisfied.
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Re: Sound while idling > 40 MPH [sudha22]
by sudha22
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Nov 04, 2009 (7:41 pm)
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Replying to: sudha22 (Oct 23, 2009 7:18 am)
The issue was not resolved and hence I took it back to the dealer. This time I insisted that a dealer personnel ride with me so that I can make him hear the sound. Thankfully I could reproduce the sound and he identified that as a ringing noise. Left the car to be fixed and went to work. Got a call around noon. He said that someone [ my repair shopy guy] has applied some pink solution on the pads in the front. I would be charged $$ and that I have to pay for cleaning up the stuff. I said that I went for the second opinion and I was fine to pay as I had been dealing with it for the past 2 weeks.
Then when I went to pick the car, the dealer did not charge me anything. I was surprised immensely that a dealer not charging for something he said he would.
I asked him repeatedly whether the sound is fixed and he confidently said that it is.
Next I asked what was the fix. He said that they had to apply some sticky substance wherever the brake is being held on all 4 pads. I asked whether it needs to be done anytime I had to change the pads. He said yes. When I asked is it some kind of a glue, he said NO and said it is some kind of sticky substance. Whatever.. It has been a week since it was fixed and I have not heard the sound.
I am bit worried whether the fix is going to hold good or the issue is going to come again and without me knowing would it affect anything else..
How could Hyundai ignore such an issue and not issue a recall for a permanent fix?
In the inernet age, an issue such as this spreads so easily which would spoil their reputation.
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Re: Sound while idling > 40 MPH [sudha22]
by espo35
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Nov 05, 2009 (4:20 pm)
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Replying to: sudha22 (Nov 04, 2009 7:41 pm)
So the dealer DIDN'T charge you to undo the crappy job done by "your mechanic" and you're complaining that Hyundai is "ignoring the issue".....?
Gotcha.
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- #128 of 153
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Re: Sound while idling > 40 MPH [espo35]
by sudha22
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Nov 05, 2009 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: espo35 (Nov 05, 2009 4:20 pm)
Just read the entire thread of mine and then conclude.. I wouldn't have taken it to the mechanic if the dealer did the job right in the first place. Also, whatever mechanic did was he applied an anti-squeak solution.
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- #129 of 153
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Hyundai problem acknowledgement
by ayeu
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Nov 06, 2009 (8:48 am)
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Sudha22 - Please read the brake comments from everybody then think objectively. There is a chronic problem with Hyundai brakes (check out the Santa Fe brake comments, too) that Hyundai Motors is ignoring. My Service Manager acknowledges it. Hyundai dealers recommend regular disassembly and lubrication of pad slides at a cost of about 1¢ per mile (my dealer charges $130 every 15,000 miles), so they acknowledge it, too.
I was in for an oil change last week and the guy who sold me my car asked how I liked it. I told him other than the brake issue I like it. He asked if I'd buy another one and I said "I'm not sure (read: I don't think so)". He called me an honest man. I recommended that he go to Edmunds.com and read the thread on Sonata brakes to see what he may have to defend against.
Other manufacturers don't have this problem. Hyundai and Kia do. They have made great progress with nice cars and this one problem could be easily solved and would avoid a disastrous change in customer quality perception.
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Second stuck rear caliper and paint problems
by saint_jude
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Nov 08, 2009 (12:59 pm)
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I have a 2007 Sonata that has a stuck caliper for the second time in about one year. The first time, the repair was under warranty, but now, at 55K, I'm not sure if the repair will be covered. I caught it when I took it in for an oil change at Mr. Tire, and they advised me the break on the driver's side was starting to affect the rotor and should be fixed asap. I have also had paint chips in my blue metallic paint. My 2004 was a splendid car and never gave me a single problem, but I think this will be the last Hyundai I buy for awhile.
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