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#101 of 153 Re: 2007 Sonata rear brake issue [ayeu] by wobbly_ears Sep 16, 2009 (9:30 am)
Replying to: ayeu (Sep 15, 2009 2:47 pm) ayeu,   The website you're pointing at is Hyundai Phillipines. Maybe there Hyundai suggests replacing the timing belt. However, I'm looking at the manual for US spec Azera & it doesn't mention anything about it. Infact, I even called a mechanic friend of mine & he told me that timing chains aren't meant to be replaced before 100k miles (if at all).   The timing belts need to replaced at 60k miles. The belts are made from rubber/asbestos/polymer compounds. The Timing Chains are made from metals & are designed to last longer. The reason why it costs 1000k replace the Timing Chain in Azera is that it isn't meant to be meddled with unless there's something wrong.
#102 of 153 Re: Another one [etoyoc] by sprkgtz Oct 02, 2009 (6:12 pm)
Replying to: etoyoc (Sep 06, 2009 6:00 pm) Add me to the list of 08 Sonata owners with shot rear brakes at 19,000 miles. I should begin by stating the assistant service manager told me it would me cost $115 just to have them LOOK at the car, although he admitted he heard the grinding when we first drove into the service bay. The brake job cost $295 and that was only because the rotors were still okay. The front brakes still have 80% left. Later in the day the service manager gave me a lengthy speech about how the "slide pins" on the brakes need to be cleaned and lubed every 7500-15,000 miles and that if we had had the "15,000 mile routine maintenance" performed on time "this would never have happened". I asked him if this "slide pin" maintenance need was unique to Hyundai because in nearly 40 years of owning cars I have never heard of this. In fact we own a Toyota with 100,000 miles on it and it has only needed the brakes redone once...and like all our other cars, it has never needed any type of "brake maintenance". Obviously these service managers think we are all idiots.
#103 of 153 RE: Sprkqtz brake replacement cost by tsigler Oct 10, 2009 (9:25 am)
I don't know where you live, I'm in DE, but I just had the rear brakes on my 2007 Sonata replaced at 21800 this morning. Total cost including "surfacing" the rotors was $194.95 ($125 labor and $69.95 for "58302-3ka60 Pad Kit-RR"). My service manager explained to me that the backs wear out before the fronts because they are about half the size of the fronts. Seems, according to him, that is Hyundai's way of balancing the front-back braking bias. Like you, I usually get 70-80,000 miles before needing brakes. Didn't like what I was being told that's why trying to check out the situation. Seems I'll be buying something else before the next set is needed. Replies to this message: curtr (Oct 10, 2009 5:38 pm) ayeu (Oct 12, 2009 8:04 am) msallmen (Oct 12, 2009 9:08 am) ayeu (Oct 13, 2009 4:53 pm) targettuning (Oct 13, 2009 8:05 am)
#104 of 153 Brake problems? by curtr Oct 10, 2009 (5:32 pm)
I have an 06 Sonata GLX - and have never had any problems with brakes, after 191,000 miles. This may be because I have disc brakes all around...The front brakes have been replaced three times - once with aftermarket pads that 'sqealed' after only about 10,000 miles, so the third set went on. The rears have been replaced once.   Now, I do my own work - and I'll say that both front and rear replacements have been among the simplest I've ever done. They're virtually 'snap in' - especially the rears.   Altogether, the Sonata has been the best car I've ever owned.
#105 of 153 RE: Sprkqtz brake replacement cost [tsigler] by curtr Oct 10, 2009 (5:38 pm)
Replying to: tsigler (Oct 10, 2009 9:25 am) I'd say that your service manager was entirely wrong. If the rears are wearing out before the front (the burden on the front brakes is substantially more than the rears - on any car) I'd have a reputable garage check out the balance adjustment.   Resurfacing rotors, in my opinion, is a scam - unless you have deep cuts in the rotor, you're good - at 191,000 miles, I've replaced the rear pads on my 06 Sonata ONCE, and it's a very simple job.
#106 of 153 RE: Sprkqtz brake replacement cost [tsigler] by ayeu Oct 12, 2009 (8:04 am)
Replying to: tsigler (Oct 10, 2009 9:25 am) tsigler -I live in Ohio. You are part of a long list that Hyundai (and some of the readers of this thread) refuse to accept or believe. Did your dealer increase the clearance in the pad slides? My dealer said that's the only way to prevent a recurrence. The good news is the brakes haven't seized since but they are a lot noisier. I got 11 months/21,000 out of my first set of back pads. I now have 63,300 miles on the car - original front pads and so far 42,000 on the replacement rear pads. I just rotated my tires and still have plenty of meat on all four pads.   As far as buying another Hyundai, if I were to consider doing so, I would have to build in the inevitable brake repair costs against the total cost of ownership vs other cars. Aside from the brakes, all repairs (minor) have been under warranty so haven't cost me anything. My dealer always has oil change coupons for $19.95 so that's inexpensive maintenance. They always try to sell service over and above what HMC recommends. A classic is "upper engine decarbonization" which supposedly "decarbonizes" your intake manifold and injection system. I asked the Service Mgr how carbon forms ahead of combustion. He had no answer. I declined the service. Ironically, back at 15,000 miles they recommended a $130 brake service. I declined that one, too. 6,000 miles later they seized. Replies to this message: msallmen (Oct 12, 2009 9:08 am) ayeu (Oct 13, 2009 4:53 pm)
#107 of 153 RE: Sprkqtz brake replacement cost [ayeu] by msallmen Oct 12, 2009 (9:08 am)
Replying to: ayeu (Oct 12, 2009 8:04 am) I'm no mechanic, but it is my understanding that exhaust gases are recirculated back into the combustion chamber via the EGR valve. That is a likely source of carbon deposits. I'm also a fan of BG chemicals and their scheduled maintenance procedures. Their oil and fuel treatments breathed new life into my previous car. I plan to use all applicable BG products on my newly-acquired Hyundai. Here's their Fuel/Air Induction Service. Replies to this message: ayeu (Oct 13, 2009 4:53 pm)
#108 of 153 RE: Sprkqtz brake replacement cost [tsigler] by targettuning Oct 13, 2009 (8:05 am)
Replying to: tsigler (Oct 10, 2009 9:25 am) The rear rotors on nearly every car with 4 wheel discs (with the possible exception of sport and high performance cars) are always smaller than the fronts. The brake bias front to rear is taken care of by the brake proportioning valve not by sizing brake rotors F to R and making the fronts larger. That said, the combination of smaller rear rotors + making the rear brakes share in much more of the work of stopping the car (via the aformentioned proportioning valve) may result in shorter rear pad life in the newest cars. In the "old days" the rear brakes did little in helping stop the car. I stated this before but we had a 1997 Taurus on which the rear brake shoes lasted nearly 150,000 miles. I thought that was great until the reality of the situation dawned on me....the rear brakes didn't do squat and were along for the ride. That HAS changed so expect rear brakes to wear out now. end of story!!
#109 of 153 RE: Sprkqtz brake replacement cost [msallmen] by ayeu Oct 13, 2009 (4:53 pm)
Replying to: msallmen (Oct 12, 2009 9:08 am) Thanks for the tip on BG, I'm somewhat familiar with their products. My Sonata has almost 64,000 after three years, the brakes are working and it gets >30 mpg reliably. I'm going to assume that the fuel additives in the gas I use are working just fine. Regarding oil additives, oils nowadays are pretty slippery with good technology behind them. I change O & F after no more than 5,000 miles and it's still pretty clean.
#110 of 153 Rear Brake Issues by LASHAWN Oct 15, 2009 (8:53 am)
Seems to me, at least from all the complaints I've read on this forum, that these rear brake concerns are only on vehicles from the north or midwest where it snows alot. Down here in the South brakes usually don't have to be changed until after 50k miles at least. I have an 06 Sonata LX and I changed out my front pads at 54k miles(63600 currently) and have yet to need new rear brakes.

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