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Re: Fog lamp switch won't turn off [incruiser] by clnchfieldpaul
Jun 15, 2005 (7:19 pm)
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Replying to: incruiser (Jun 07, 2005 9:32 pm)

My girlfriend called me yesterday and told me she had smoke coming from the steering column and that the fog lights were on and would not go off. I told her to disconnect the battery but she wasn't familiar with that so I told her to locate the fuse for the foglamps in the fuse box and pull it. She took it to the Chrysler dealer today and they give her some story about an old type of connector that was used and if she could locate one, they would replace it or the Chrysler fix was to put a new wire harness in. The new wire harness was something they did in later PT Cruisers. Anyway they were talking to her about a bill of over $1000.00 to fix it. They claimed they had never heard of this problem, we know that is BS. Does any one know of a TSB on this problem. She bought the car used 3 months ago and now they want her to spend another $1000.00 to fix this problem. Not happy campers here.
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Re: Fog lamp switch won't turn off [clnchfieldpaul] by christianhamer
Jun 22, 2005 (5:40 am)
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Replying to: clnchfieldpaul (Jun 15, 2005 7:19 pm)

I have the same fog lamp problem on my 2001 PT Cruiser (fog lamps come on randomly, including when the vehicle is parked, turned off, and unoccupied, regardless of whether the headlights have been previously used or not). It started a week or two ago. Just called the dealer from whom I purchased it and the service department claimed they have never heard reports of it and don't see and recall or TSB on it. They want 89 bucks to look at it and then tell me what it will really cost. I will probably have that done in the next month unless I hear of a different solution. For now, I'm going to immediately remove the fog lamp fuse (I haven't seen any evidence of smoke yet). Please let me know if anyone is able to make progress on TSB/recall/workaround. I'll post the dealer's reaction/solution once I can actually get it there. Thanks for any help/info/further updates!
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Re: Fog lamp switch won't turn off [clnchfieldpaul] by brettw
Jun 23, 2005 (4:08 am)
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Replying to: clnchfieldpaul (Jun 15, 2005 7:19 pm)

There is a recall for this. The stearing column harnis can catch fire. Ours did when we were in Oklahoma, 200 miles from home.
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Re: Fog lamp switch won't turn off [brettw] by tooncar
Jun 23, 2005 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: brettw (Jun 23, 2005 4:08 am)

These are what I found relate to 2001 PT Cruisers, but I can't figure out which is related to the fog light? The power steering one?
http://www.recalldata.org/2001/39483.shtml
http://www.recalldata.org/2001/39484.shtml
http://www.recalldata.org/2001/39485.shtml
http://www.recalldata.org/2001/39486.shtml
 
Here was a list I found but I couldn't find free links to the info yet
 
Automotive Recall and Technical Service Bulletin Titles for 2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser L4-2.4L VIN B.
 
Safety Recalls
TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title
D18 SEP 04 Recall - Power Steering Pressure Hose Replacement
B23 AUG 02 Recall - Fuel Pump Module Secondary Seal
957 NOV 00 Recall - Child Restraint, Owner's Manual Update
Service Bulletins
TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title
03-006-04 SEP 04 Drivetrain - Front Hub/Half Shaft Pop/Click Sound
23-034-04 SEP 04 Body - Front or Rear Bumper Fascia Discoloration
19-003-04A AUG 04 Steering - Steering Column Clicking Sound
18-020-04 MAY 04 Engine Controls - Rough Idle/Sag/3,000 RPM Surge
21-004-04 MAR 04 A/T - ATF Usage List
22-004-03 SEP 03 Wheels - Chrome Wheel Care
21-009-03 AUG 03 A/T - Diagnostic Teardown Procedure
24-003-03 MAY 03 A/C - System Sealer Usage Prohibition
08-012-03 APR 03 Alarm System - Inadvertent Siren Activation
08-010-03 APR 03 Interior - Seat Belt Cinch Bar Service
18-008-03 MAR 03 Engine Controls - Co-Pilot Support/Cable Selection
23-046-02 NOV 02 Interior - Non-U.S. Vehicles, Child Seat Anchorage
24-010-02 NOV 02 A/C - Performance Test Ports
24-009-02 OCT 02 A/C - System Leak Detection
08-008-02 JUN 02 Engine - No Start/No Crank Condition
18-020-02 JUN 02 Engine Controls - Flash Reprogramming Failure
23-015-02 APR 02 Outside Rearview Mirror - Glass Replacement
08-007-02 MAR 02 Keyless Entry - Programming Procedure
23-004-02 JAN 02 Front Window Regulator - Squeaks When Operated
08-028-01 DEC 01 Lighting - Moisture in Headlamps
08-037-00 DEC 01 Air Bag - Foam Rubber Pads Fall Off/Buzz or Rattle
08-025-01 NOV 01 Air Bag - On/Off Switches
18-027-01 NOV 01 Engine - Moderate To Severe Highway Speed Surge
19-009-01 OCT 01 Driver Airbag - Trim Cover Service
14-001-01A JUN 01 Fuel Gauge - Doesn't Register Full
23-010-01 JUN 01 Sunroof - Vibration/Flutter
08-013-01 JUN 01 Radio - Connector Repair Kit
08-010-01 MAY 01 Airbag/Clock Spring - Service
18-012-01 MAY 01 Generic Scan Tool - Reference Information
23-008-01 MAY 01 Body Exhauster - Ticking Noise In Passenger Compartment
09-003-01 MAY 01 Engine Oil - Additives/Supplements
24-005-01 APR 01 A/C System - Performance Test
18-009-01 MAR 01 EVAP System - Leak Detection Pump Operation
18-007-01 FEB 01 A/T - Surge/Sag/Shift Bump
23-003-01 FEB 01 FMVSS201 - Head Impact Safety Standards
08-006-00A DEC 00 Wiring - Revised Splicing Procedure
08-037-00 DEC 00 Driver's Airbag - Service Information
08-038-00 DEC 00 Restraint Systems - Service Precautions
23-036-00 NOV 00 Roof Rack Stanchion Cover - Loose /Missing
08-034-00 NOV 00 Tools - Relay Removal & Installation Tool
08-033-00 NOV 00 Sound System - ``Cold CD'' Fault Code Information
18-18-00 SEP 00 PCM - Driveability Problem Improvements
18-12-00 AUG 00 MIL - Revised Features for OBDII Readiness
19-02-00A JUL 00 Ignition Lock Cylinder - Service Precautions
23-26-00 JUL 00 Rear Seat - Left/Right Floor Latch Won't Release
26-07-00 JUL 00 Fuel System - Throttle Body Torque Specification Update
14-04-00 JUN 00 Fuel System - Engine Slow To Start
18-07-00 JUN 00 MIL ON - DTCs P0645, P1282, P1489, P1490, P1495 Set
18-04-00 JUN 00 MIL - Erroneous P0441 Evap Purge Flow Monitor Failure
23-22-00 MAY 00 B & C Pillar Appliques - Brown Haze or Discoloration
26-05-00 MAY 00 Steering/Suspension - Alignment Specification Update
23-16-00 APR 00 Left/Right Front Door Speaker - Buzz or Hum
23-14-00 APR 00 Cargo Net - Installation Instructions
08-14-00 APR 00 Fuel Gauge - Does Not Register Full
05-02-00 APR 00 Parking Brake Equalizer Assembly - Removal
08-04-00 FEB 00 Headlight Bulb - Part Numbers/Replacement Information
03-01-00 FEB 00 Driveshaft - Removal Information
07-004-00 JAN 00 A/T - Cooler Line Splice Kit
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Re: Fog lamp switch won't turn off [tooncar] by brettw
Jun 23, 2005 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: tooncar (Jun 23, 2005 9:05 am)

I am sorry, I guess I should have qualified this that mine is a 2004 Limited PT. Here is the recall data:
 
Recall Date: JUN 03, 2004
Component: STEERING:HYDRAULIC POWER ASSIST:HOSE, PIPING, AND CONNECTIONS
Potential Units Affected: 438391
Summary: ON CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH 2.4L NON-TURBOCHARGED ENGINES AND AUTOMATIC TRANSAXLES, THE POWER STEERING PRESSURE HOSE MAY CONTACT THE AUTOMATIC TRANSAXLE DIFFERENTIAL COVER, POTENTIALLY DAMAGING THE HOSE.
Consequence: POWER STEERING FLUID LEAKAGE IN THE PRESENCE OF AN IGNITION SOURCE CAN RESULT IN AN UNDERHOOD FIRE.
Remedy: DEALERS WILL INSPECT AND RELOCATE, OR REPLACE AS NECESSARY, THE POWER STEERING HOSE AND CONFIRM TORQUE OF THE HOSE FASTENER AT THE STEERING GEAR END. THE RECALL BEGAN ON SEPTEMBER 20, 2004. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT DAIMLERCHRYSLER AT 1-800-853-1403.
Notes: DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION, D18
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Re: Fog lamp switch won't turn off [christianhamer] by christianhamer
Jun 28, 2005 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: christianhamer (Jun 22, 2005 5:40 am)

My cruiser's going in next Tuesday for the evaluation. In the meantime, I called Chrysler's recall folks to find out how these get started. They took down info from me about my problem/experience and they claim it will be analyzed, etc. I asked if it is helpful if others having the problem contact Chrysler and the rep told me it absolutely is. So, if you're having the foglamp problem and hoping Chrysler might do something about it, call them at 800-992-1997 and choose the "recall" prompt then choose to speak with a rep when the message explains the options available to you on the web instead of speaking with a rep.
 
The woman I talked to was very nice and seemed interested/concerned. More importantly, she told me that as long as I hang onto the receipts, I can claim a reimbursement if there ever IS a recall issued for this. In doing so, having a case/file number, which is one thing you get by calling the above number, is helpful/important so I would definitely encourage folks to call.
 
I'll send an update if any once the car's back from the dealer.
 
PS - fwiw I'm apparently due for the PS hose recall as well while it's in there...
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Re: Fog lamp switch won't turn off [incruiser] by bfenton
Jun 28, 2005 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: incruiser (Jun 07, 2005 9:32 pm)

I'm having the same problem with my 2001 PT Cruiser. The fog lamps turn on randomly and are very difficult to turn off. This has run down the battery one time. Is there a fuse I can remove for the foglamps?
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Re: Fog lamp switch won't turn off [bfenton] by christianhamer
Jun 29, 2005 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: bfenton (Jun 28, 2005 11:54 am)

I believe it's fuse #8 - it's well identified on the back of the fuse cover and, so far, I have found no ill effects of having it pulled
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Re: Fog lamp switch won't turn off [christianhamer] by clnchfieldpaul
Jun 29, 2005 (5:49 pm)
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Replying to: christianhamer (Jun 28, 2005 7:22 am)

Thanks for the 800 number christianhamer. The more people that call, the more they will realize that they ( and we) have a real problem. I'll give them a call tomorrow. Paul
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Re: Fog lamp switch won't turn off [christianhamer] by bstack
Jul 05, 2005 (11:27 am)
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Replying to: christianhamer (Jun 28, 2005 7:22 am)

A couple of months ago, (before I checked this site) my local mechanic replaced my whole turn signal assembly to remedy the fog light problem. I went to my local guy because: 1) I trust him; 2) He is less expensive than the dealer; 3) My car is out of warranty (48,000); and 4) I did not know that this was a chronic problem with Cruisers. I took your advice and called the "hotline" today. While they were happy to register my complaint, and give me a reference number, they were unable to tell me if there was a planned recall, only that my vehicle had received all known recall service.

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