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#505 of 548 Re: 2004 MINI Cooper Clutch Problems [32flavors]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Apr 20, 2012 (5:54 pm)
Make sure you replace EVERYTHING in there--including the flywheel, the rear main engine seal, the release bearing, clutch disc, pressure plate, new flywheel bolts, new pressure plate bolts, transmission main shaft seal, clutch pivot pin, throw-out bearing guide sleeve, new slave cylinder.
This is a big and expensive job, and you don't want to go in there again. Mini flywheels are prone to glazing and then howling (the dreaded "chewbacca sound") So if you haven't had the flywheel ever replaced, now's the time.
#506 of 548 Clutch and Flywheel gone at 26,000 miles
May 10, 2012 (1:35 pm)
We've brought in my wife's 2009 Mini Clubman S into our local Mini dealer for the past year complaining about the same sound coming from what we thought was the clutch. For a year they kept sending it back stating that they heard nothing. Now, that the car is out of the 3 year bumper to bumper warranty, by about a month, they've managed to locate the problem. They also want $3,000.00 to fix it. Contacted Mini corporate but they were no help. When I explained that not only has this been going on for a year - documented- that it also seems to be an issue with many owners nationwide. And that like my dealer, we're being told that it's due to abusive driving. Funny how that word spreads from dealers coast to coast. My wife has been driving cars with clutches for 29 years. She is not an abusive driver. There definately is a problem. Suggestions?
#507 of 548 Re: Clutch and Flywheel gone at 26,000 miles [psibagman]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
May 10, 2012 (1:46 pm)
Do you have any repair orders written during the warranty period that make a statement on them about your complaint?
#508 of 548 Re: Clutch and Flywheel gone at 26,000 miles [Mr_Shiftright]
May 11, 2012 (7:25 am)
I thought MINI had a 3 year/36 K bumper to bumper warranty and a 4 year/50K drivetrain warranty.
Has that changed? I know my wife's 2005 Mini has that...
Update: no change, per the Mini web-site.
#509 of 548 Clutch failed at 8,000 miles
May 12, 2012 (4:23 pm)
I was shocked when my clutch failed on my 2009 Clubman at 8k miles - I have driven manual transmissions for years and never had any problems with my other cars (Saab, Acura, Jeep and Honda). This is a second vehicle so it isn't driven daily as were the other vehicles. Not really looking for any response, but was disheartened to see clutch failure at low mileage isn't an uncommon experience.
#510 of 548 Re: Clutch failed at 8,000 miles [soletrain]
May 13, 2012 (8:17 am)
Is Your Mini a base or "S" model?
#511 of 548 Re: Clutch failed at 8,000 miles [busiris]
May 13, 2012 (10:53 am)
#512 of 548 Re: Clutch failed at 8,000 miles [soletrain]
May 14, 2012 (7:54 am)
I asked the model because, just using a cursory observation here, most clutch complaints on this forum seem to be the "S" designations of the various Mini models.
IIRC, the S models use a different "dual mass" flywheel, along with a different clutch disc, so I wonder if it is the difference in materials, the increased HP or a difference in driving characteristics that skews failures to the S model lineup.
#514 of 548 Dual mass clutch issues.
May 16, 2012 (4:30 pm)
From what I've been reading the last few days, it seems that many manufacturers are having problems with dual mass flywheel equipped autos.
I suspect driving habits contribute considerably to failures as well.
When I was taught how to drive a manual 45 years ago, the instructions were to keep engine revolutions low and ease out on the clutch pedal so as to minimize clutch disk wear.
That same method of driving is probably murder on a dual mass flywheel setup, because the lower revolutions would seem to cause a "jack hammer" effect to the moving parts in the flywheel assembly. It seems that releasing the clutch pedal with a higher rpm would actually even out the stress on the flywheel to a more constant pressure, even though it would increase wear on the clutch disk itself.
That may indeed explain why some here make the statement "I have been driving a manual for XX years and never had a clutch issue". I would guess this is the first dual mass clutch equipped vehicle for these folks.
If my analysis is correct, seems that Mini has done a poor job of explaining the situation to owners... But, evidently, so have other manufacturers.