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#460 of 548 Re: Can't understand all the transmission problems
Sep 24, 2011 (9:26 pm)
Thought I would add information on my wife's recent experience. She bought a new 2009 Mini Cooper S Convertible. Her clutch failed at about 9000 miles and again at about 19,000 miles. BMW/MINI fixed the first clutch as a "goodwill" gesture but refused to fix the second failure, claiming it must be "operator abuse". We knew this was not the case, so we filed under our state's Lemon Law. What a hassle, but my wife won her case. What I found particularly interesting was something that came out in the testimony during the Lemon Law hearing - the shop found that the clutch friction material had "welded" itself to the dual mass flywheel. At the end of the hearing, the state's Lemon Law automotive expert explained that the only logical explanation for the facts was that the clutch had been continuously slipping and this had got the clutch friction material very hot. Then when the car engine revolutions were reduced (when my wife slowed down) - the red hot clutch friction material bonded itself to the metal flywheel. The car became undrivable. I suspect this has happened to others and may explain why many other drivers with lots of driving experience have reported very early clutch failure. If you happen to buy a MINI with this particular defect, then you will have very early clutch failure no matter how good a driver you might be. And if you fix the clutch, it will just happen again. If you don't happen to buy a car with this defect, then the clutch will work perfectly. MINI really should have their engineers figure out what causes this defect. But no doubt it is much cheaper and easier to just lose a few unhappy customers than to figure out and fix the root cause. So good luck to all of you with a similar clutch problem. My wife and I decided we will never again buy a MINI having a clutch - we might get a lemon again with this odd clutch defect.
#461 of 548 Re: Can't understand all the transmission problems [ihatemymini]
Sep 26, 2011 (5:02 pm)
Good luck with your "class action" action.
You'll get absolutely nowhere with it, but if it makes you happy to think so.... Well....
As I have stated many times earlier, EVERY manufacturer has defects. Sometimes, you win the defect lottery.
My suggestion... Sell your Mini and move on. Life is too short...
#462 of 548 Re: Can't understand all the transmission problems [busiris]
Sep 26, 2011 (5:31 pm)
Ah I see you don't like it when somebody disagrees with you.
This is too big a deal to just "get over it". Think I'll get nowhere? You have NO idea who you're talking to. None. I have the engineering experience and contacts to prove what I am saying and I WILL do it.
This issue seems to bother you. I suggest that you move on -to another forum and another subject as there is clearly nothing worthwhile for you to say.
#463 of 548 Before this gets any further...
by PFFlyer@Edmunds HOST
Sep 27, 2011 (2:56 am)
Let's not turn this into a personal beef please.
And a reminder... the Edmunds forums cannot be used to organize legal actions so please leave the talk of class actions at the door. Any posts along those lines will be removed.
Thanks for your participation and cooperation!
#464 of 548 Re: Can't understand all the transmission problems [ihatemymini]
Sep 27, 2011 (2:42 pm)
You misunderstand my comments.
I simply don't see any future in what you're attempting to do.
Just for reference, have you ever originated a "class action" lawsuit? You better have some deep pockets available to you...
As I said, if it makes you feel better, then ... by all means, have at it.
In my experience, life's simply too short to take the route you're proposing.
Please keep us posted. If nothing else, it should be entertaining.
#465 of 548 Re: Can't understand all the transmission problems [mshawkman]
Oct 15, 2011 (6:33 am)
Can you please direct me to the service bulletin you mentioned in your post?
#466 of 548 Re: Can't understand all the transmission problems [davidhussman]
Oct 15, 2011 (7:35 am)
I saw it at a shop that specializes in MINI repairs; it's something for the service technicians to be aware of. I know the dealership won't let you see this, so if you can find a private repair shop that specializes in MINI/BMW, you might have some luck. This bulletin was released a few years ago, so whoever assist you may have some research to do. I hope that helps. BTW, may I ask if you are having clutch issues as well? Good luck.
#467 of 548 mini transmission problem
Oct 25, 2011 (6:35 am)
I have an '03 mini with 60,000 miles. I love it, I am a smooth driver, and my manual transmission failed 2 days ago. I know this is common, but this car is a cream puff. Do I have recourse? It's $4,000, including clutch.
#468 of 548 Re: mini transmission problem [tulip3]
Oct 25, 2011 (8:36 am)
I am a smooth driver, and my manual transmission failed 2 days ago. I know this is common...
Just curious.... Why do you think this is common?
What basis, other than the limited comments on this forum do you base that judgement "call" upon?
MINI manufactured over 240,000 units in the 2010 model year alone, and even if the 460+ comments here were each and every one valid complaints, its still statisctically insignificant over the years of production covered by this thread.
As for your question, you are long gone out of warranty, both in years as well as mileage, so I really doubt you have any actual justification for MINI/dealer involvement in cost reduction. Never hurts to try the sympathy angle on the dealer, though... especially if you had the dealer do all the service work on your car.
A piece of advice, for whatever its worth.... Don't try the "its a widespread problem" tactic. It will get you absolutely nowhere.
#469 of 548 Possible transmission issue?
Oct 31, 2011 (8:20 am)
I have an 03 mini S and lately I have been experiencing a rather odd behavior. When switching gears and accelerating the car, you can see the rpm's increasing but the car does not respond so the rpms go high and drop right after the car catches up with the speed.
I am unsure what this is or of this is common? is as if the car could not respond to the acceleration and therefore it takes it a wile to respond.
I appreciate any information or help on this issue.