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Pontiac Bonneville Starting/Stallling/Ignition Problems

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Re: Shutting Off [imidazol97] by gmcatera1
Feb 13, 2008 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Feb 12, 2008 4:05 pm)

The starter would turn the engine over but this signal would not enable the fuel injectors . I tested the circuit on my car and found the signal from the security system was 5 second to late to keep the car running.
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Re: pontiac bonniville 3.8 V 6 [vcrespo] by vcrespo
Feb 20, 2008 (3:46 pm)
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Replying to: vcrespo (Feb 09, 2008 3:20 am)

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hello everyone, i have a 1995 bonniville 3800 with remote control. it didn't work at first until i replace the relay under the driver seat now the remote only open the driver side door. is there any other relay i should know about. the book only show the relay that's under the driver seat. can the relay be bad? i have change the remote control battery. the trunk open and one door.
also the security lite don't come on when i lock the door. only when i trune the car on...... please help...
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Re: 96 Bonneville-a new one on me!!!!!!! [rwawvw] by starlite2
Mar 06, 2008 (2:48 pm)
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Replying to: rwawvw (May 22, 2006 7:23 pm)

Check under the carpet to see if it's wet!! If it is then it is probably grounding out and throwing a relay.Mine did the same thing and it was wet.I left the doors open for a few days and dried the carpet and has ran fine since........
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3800 V6 intermittent starting problems by neustkg
Apr 09, 2008 (1:31 pm)
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3800 V6 intermittent starting problems by neustkg
Feb 02, 2008 (10:58 am)
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Thought I'd post this here as I think the Bonneville has this engine, too.
 
I have a 2000 Grand Prix GT w/3800 V6. Has about 89,000 miles. It seems to always start when it is cold. After it warms up completely, if you turn it off (to go into a store, etc.), and try to start it again, it sometimes will not start (happened about 3 times in the last month). It turns over, but won't start (sounds like it is flooded). It will sometimes eventually start after numerous tries, but will always start when the engine cools completely.
 
We took it into a decent local shop, but they told me it hasn't thrown any codes. They said it could be the crankshaft sensor, ignition module, or fuel pump. They don't want to just start replacing parts as each repair can be costly with the fuel pump being the most expensive. We were hoping that it would start failing more often, especially when they had it (it always started for them) as they can't really do much as long as it always starts for them. We thought the car problems were consistent (always starts when when cold, sometimes won't start when warm, but will eventually start when engine gets cold), but it threw us a curve the other day when the engine stalled while my wife was turning into our development. Luckily, she was able to coast it a half mile to our driveway. Again, after it cooled, it started.
 
I have heard that a bad battery or one that will soon fail (or one that is defective) can possibly cause this (the battery in the car is 4 years old), so I might take it to a shop and have them check it and maybe replace it anyway as this would be the cheapest fix that I can do myself.
 
Has anyone had this problem w/the 3800 V6? Any advice? I'm hoping that if the battery doesn't do it, the car will start failing so the shop can fix the problem.
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Re: 3800 V6 intermittent starting problems [neustkg] by azu
Feb 02, 2008 (11:55 am)
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Replying to: neustkg (Feb 02, 2008 10:58 am)

Sounds like a ground problem. Check all battery connections and grounds under the hood. Also check the ground buss next to the drivers' side door under the carpet. Mine is a 95 and had similar problems. Good luck!
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Re: 3800 V6 intermittent starting problems [azu] by neustkg
Feb 02, 2008 (12:04 pm)
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Replying to: azu (Feb 02, 2008 11:55 am)

By ground buss, are you talking about a fuse?
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Re: 3800 V6 intermittent starting problems [neustkg] by azu
Feb 03, 2008 (7:26 pm)
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Replying to: neustkg (Feb 02, 2008 12:04 pm)

I'm not 100% sure that the post '99 Bonnies have them but it is a ground that are for the fuel pump. door locks, defroster etc. It is next to the drivers door under the trim.
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Re: 3800 V6 intermittent starting problems [neustkg] by nikhit
Feb 04, 2008 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: neustkg (Feb 02, 2008 10:58 am)

Hey, I have a 3800 V6 in my 97 Pontiac GTP and sounds like it has exactly the same problem. I just got the car (used) and it began stalling on me intermittently.
 
Initially it would start after a couple of tries but then once I had to have it towed as it wouldnt start for over an hour. The mechanics are stumped - no codes so far. The fuel pump was extra loud, and after a lot of attempts at diagnosing (1 week), a GM 'specialist' said it was the fuel pump. Got that replaced and guess what - it wasnt.
 
I have been reading up on this problem for the last two weeks and it could be so many things - right from Cam, crank sensors, the MAF sensor, clogged fuel filter, etc. Compression tests were done - no problems. The sensors as i said did not throw any codes. I've asked him to put some injector cleaner and see if that helps. I tested my battery - it was fine. I tried to jump start it once but that didn't help. (Also, all the lights and the radio come on, battery seems normal)
 
Again, the problem is that the mechanics cant seem to reproduce the problem. They managed to do it once and detected low fuel pressure (and i replaced the pump, but the problem still occurs). Something is not letting fuel reach the engine. It seems like a minor problem, but diagnosing it is killing me.
 
I'll make sure to update this post - hopefully it might be of some help to you.
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Re: 3800 V6 intermittent starting problems [nikhit] by azu
Feb 04, 2008 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: nikhit (Feb 04, 2008 9:53 am)

I went through same thing and mechanics were stumped. 95% chance it is a bad ground. Make sure all battery connections are tight and corrosion free. Clean all underhood grounds. On my 95 there were three locations, just look on the fenders and firewall areas. If that doesn't do it there are two grounds in the cabin in the front right where your left foot would go on drivers' side and right foot on passengers side. It is under the carpet. If that doesn't work clean the ground buss, there is one by each front door under the trim next to the seat. Do the drivers' side first as this is usually the culprit. Just carefully take off the tape and you will see the ground buss, a plastic blue part with wires going in. Pull the small long metal piece out and clean well. Then take each wire out and clean connection and if you have some dielectric grease put that on it. If that doesn't do it then do the passenger side front ground buss. If that still doesn't work then probably cam shaft and/or crank shaft sensors are bad. Another possibility that the magnet on the harmonic balancer is bad as well. Good luck.

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