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#18 of 241 2008 G6 convertible transmission out!
Apr 19, 2009 (6:49 pm)
I left the long story in the G6 convertible section. So long story short... Bought a brand new 2008 Pontiac G6 hardtop convertible 8/20/08. Paid about 30,000. Didn't really like the way it took off or accelerated (I don't know if this has something to do with a faulty transmission or if this is actually how the car drives). 3/13/09 started have shifting problems. On the highway it wouldn't upshift and was running up to 5000 rpm's going about 60-65. Taking off from a stoplight it revved up pretty high and was barely moving then suddenly kicked in and tires spun. Shop told me to bring it in on Monday. Over the weekend I didn't really drive it. My husband took it out on Sunday and it was driving fine. So I took it in on Monday and they couldn't find a single thing wrong with it. Treated me like I was some dumb lady when I told them my tranny was going out. At this time I imagine my car had around 8,000 miles. So I told them I'd drive it till either the check engine light came on or until it quit working. I drove it around the rest of that month and the beginning of April with no problems. Then around the 10th it started kinda stalling when it was shifting. Still no check engine light though. So on the 15th I drove it up to a friend's house. By time I got off the highway it was really acting up. When I would try to go I could pretty much floor it and it would barely go. Took forever to get up to speed. I get to her house and realize I'm blocking people in so I go to back out of my spot and the reverse doesn't work. How embarrassed was I to push my practically brand new vehicle back. It has between 9,000 and 10,000 miles now. I had to get it towed to the dealership and they gave me an egg on wheels (Chevy Cobalt). Friday I called to see if they figured out what was wrong. They told me it had an internal transmission problem and they had to completely rebuild the tranny. I was tempted to ask if this was the same transmission they told me nothing was wrong with a month earlier. They must think I'm psychic or something.
So any ways... I was totally devastated. I was crying, I don't want a car that I can't trust. I am so upside down on it right now that I can't trade it in anytime soon. I hate my car and really want to get something else but there's nothing I can do until I can get it paid down a bit more. I just don't feel the same way about it anymore. Does anyone have any ideas? lol
#19 of 241 Re: 2008 G6 convertible transmission out! [foster7780]
Apr 20, 2009 (6:26 am)
Well, don't feel bad. As I am so in tune with a car too. I can figure out something is wrong easily over time. So you observing that is totally normal. Perhaps take the car to another dealer, get a GM rep out there. Or perhaps drive the car until it gets worse, to the point where they finally see it. It all under warranty. Its so annoying when they claim nothing is wrong. You feel like a moron. Hello? I certainly wouldn't come in just to make something up, and have people messing around with my car. If nothing was wrong, I would NOT bring it in. Duh!
I actually think something is wrong with my transmission too. I have the 4cyl G6 sedan, and when it accelerates at about 40mph, with normal not fast acceleration it shifts quite hard into the next gear. There is 1 gear that seems to shifts rough. Also if I am in traffic going about 30-40mph, it shifts up and down a gear quite rough. Its almost like a lunging affect. I hate the engine!!! It was never shifting real smooth when I bought it, especially that first gear, its so rough. I just thought it would get better with time. Breaking it in. But, it seems like it is getting a bit worse with time now. I am not hard on my engine, and when I accelerate, just let is ride up to speed, that is when it really just sorta lunges, roughly nudges right into gear. Who knows it might not be the 1st gear, but one of them is getting bad. Now, if I accelerate with a bit more punch, it will be a little less rough, but you can still feel it. I am not sure why they put the torque line so high up in the power curve? It makes sense to have it in the lower end.
When I take the car to get an oil change I am going to have them look at it. I am going to word it with a trust worthy person I know there. There is something wrong with my transmission. It lunges into gear. It feels like its slipping a bit. It embarrassing, because it might do that when I have people in the car. Now of course, it'll act perfect when they take it out. BUT, I am going to take out another similar G6, same specs. See what it feels like. My car has about 15k miles. It should not be acting like that.
I know the pain you are talking about. If you take that kind of pride in a car, it is disappointing to have no one believe you, and there is trouble with it. I lease my 08 G6, I want out!! Love the car itself, but the engine is truly a disappointment. I hate it! I miss my Honda engine!!!
Go to another dealer, contact GM, get a case started. Just give them as much information as you can. Drive another car like yours, have them ride in both.
#20 of 241 Re: 2008 G6 convertible transmission out! [bvdj84]
Apr 20, 2009 (8:02 am)
Well they have to believe me now, it's in the shop having the transmission completely rebuilt and they're footing the tow bill and my rental car bill. Is there a way to get out of buying this car? I know I've had it for 8 months now, but I'm so unhappy with it. I have never hated one of my vehicles before now. I know more has to go wrong with it before I can do the lemon law. I had asked them if they'd just trade me cars or something, lol. They weren't going for it. To me I'd think a transmission going out on a vehicle would lower the value later on. I don't know that for sure. Some people would think it's just fine since it's been rebuilt. But in my opinion I kind of think of it as tainted or something. Can't really think of the words, but I just don't trust it now. I had a car before that the transmission went out on and it seemed once we replaced it we kept having problems with it. So you think I should contact GM? What would I say?
#21 of 241 Re: 2008 G6 convertible transmission out! [foster7780]
Apr 21, 2009 (6:29 am)
I am glad they are trying to fix it, but you are right. It is not always good to re-do the whole thing, because it is never the same as a true factory spec model. It could have problems. But, then again it could be just fine. Just what it needed. I would give GM a call and nicely, but firmly talk to them about the issue. You no longer have a untouched product, its been in the shop, the tranny has been rebuilt. Honestly, they probably won't allow you to get out the car. But, try to do everything you can to get out. Seek all options. Talk to your dealer about getting out. Document everything, every paper, forms. It will help support your problem. Honestly, I personally think having a tranny rebuilt is grounds enough for an owner to get out. I certainly would not feel confident about it. I lease or buy new for a reason. It defeats the whole purpose. The transmission is a BIG deal. I am not sure things are ever the same after you mess around in the engine bay.
If you think about it, you will have a new car, but a rebuilt transmission. You try to sell the car later, its documented, people will look at that. Instant value drop.
Is that your fault? NO! I would push to get out, as you no longer have a "new" car. I would file a report, either lemon with the tranny, (because the tranny is a lemon). Be firm. I certainly would NOT be forced to drive the car. In fact, I would tell them right off, If the tranny has to be re-built, I do not want the car, as the company is breaching their end of the deal, and I no longer have a satisfactory product, and will fact the issue in the vehicle report for the life of the car. That is not right, I am so picky when it comes to cars.
You no longer have a clean, new product, its been re-built! A bad tranny is a lemon. Be nice, and firm. Get yourself another car. This is not your fault. Its bad enough GM has value problems, let alone "re-built tranny" that screams out lemon!
#22 of 241 Re: 2008 G6 convertible transmission out! [bvdj84]
Apr 22, 2009 (5:55 am)
I did some research online...... and guess what I found? Well I found a similar complaint about the 08 G6 4cyl transmission or engine. Stating it jolts, lunges, lacks pick up when its around 20-45mph. That is EXACTLY what my car is doing. They took it to the dealer and they first did not see anything. But, later found it was a problem. So perhaps its not just me! Even when I first got the car with 200miles on it. I noticed its shifted a bit rough, but 15k miles later, it still feels the same. Though when just accelerating normal, just letting the car ride up to speed. I wait for it to get up to about 45-50mph, and sure enough, you can literally feel the transmission jolt right into place. Now, I am sure most would not call that normal.
Also, if I am in traffic, the transmission just goes up and down the one gear when going 20-40mph. You can feel it roughly slip back and forth into gear.
I am very well in tune with a car... and it just doesn't feel "normal". I do realize its not the Accord 4cyl engine I had, but it seems like that can't be the norm for an engine. Perhaps I am not crazy.
#23 of 241 Re: 2008 G6 convertible transmission out! [bvdj84]
Apr 22, 2009 (12:13 pm)
Well I did talk to a lawyer to see what my options were. Pretty much as long as they're trying to fix it I'm stuck with it. He said in Kansas I would have had to of taken it in 10 times for the same problem for it to go under the lemon law. He said what I could do though is to make sure the care is still treated as a new car in the warranty. Sometimes they were try to do a refurbished warranty. He said I might also be able to get an extended warranty to make sure I don't have problems later on for the same thing. But I just have to talk to them and see what they are willing to do. Still not happy! Still waiting for the day that I can trade the hunk a junk in!!! Oh yeah... Still waiting on my dam car to get out of the shop. It's almost 80 out today too. Woulda been perfect day to be out cruising around with the top down.
#24 of 241 Re: 2008 G6 convertible transmission out! [foster7780]
Apr 23, 2009 (5:55 am)
I do respect that they are fixing the issue. If it comes out perfect, than that is great!!
But, 10 times? What if I am bringing in my car 10 times because the transmission is acting up? You know how long of a period that truly is? That is not the way a new car should be? At what point are supposed to take action? Yes, make sure the car is treated as new. But, still the issue of having a re-built transmission is still at hand.
I still see it as the car is already a lemon. The transmission is a lemon!! There is no other word to call it. No other excuse. GM has voided their end of the bargain. They are pretty strict with us (consumer) holding up their end of the contract, but when it comes to the company, they can do what they want right?
Well, let them fix it, then drive it for a little while longer, keep track of your pay off versus trade in value. I figure, for me, I am 1 year into the lease now, but I think fall or the end of the year, I might have a better chance getting out.
Document everything, get the extended warranty!
I guess it does pay off to go for the car we all wanted to begin with. Cheaper does not always mean better. Just get the car you want from the start, then we will all be less likely to be unhappy during ownership and trade. Of course you were not planning for this to happen. So, the next car I lease, I am going all out (within reason) and get the car I truly want.
I want an 2009 Acura TSX with technology package!! It is going for a cheap lease right now!! I too am thinking of ways to get out!
My transmission in the G6 is still acting funny! I know something is not right.
a transmission should shift that rough or unpredictable.
#25 of 241 Re: 2008 G6 convertible transmission out! [bvdj84]
Apr 23, 2009 (8:57 am)
Yeah and that's only 10 times in 12 months! Ugh!!! Can you give the car back if enough people complain about the transmissions? Like make it seem like they're all lemons? LOL Just dreamin I guess. I can't believe how much the resale value has dropped.
If I would have gotten the car I actually wanted I would have paid less. My husband said Ford Mustangs are not a practical car if it is your only vehicle. So at the time we were going to sell my truck. We ended up keeping my truck so I can drive that in the winter. Hopefully keep low miles on my car will keep the value up on it a little.
When I went to get my car the mustang was $28,000 after negotiations and that's with taxes included and the G6 was over $30,000 with taxes included. If I would have gotten the 09 it would have been $35,000. They weren't willing to negotiate that at all.
I don't know. Pretty much what I got from the whole deal was the Ford dealership I went to were very easy to work with and the Pontiac dealership I went to were kinda cocky. Take it or leave it type.
Good luck with your transmission, I know how it feels, lol! Mine is still in the freakin shop. I call everyday just about to check on it. Been a week and 1 day today. It has also been 80+ this week and I'm stuck in my truck.
#26 of 241 Pontiac to die?
Apr 23, 2009 (6:31 pm)
Pontiac is looking like its going to die. It really is too bad. I truly think they had some potential to offer some great things. It unfortunately was not brought to the level that I am sure they originally had planned. Too much on your plate would do this to anyone.
The money was spread on so thin. I surprised it hasn't hurt or taken a toll on the Cadillac brand. But, with that said... I think it is fair to say that the Cadillac is the full potential for the company, but its too bad that you have to pay that hefty unreasonable price tag for the car. When it really should be the kind of work or quality on their cars to begin with. You buy a base model GM car, you will certainly feel "base".
It is unfortunate that 13 plants are shutting down for the "claimed" 9 weeks. A few of which will not re-open I am sure. Many will be out of jobs. It will then create a bigger blow for GM.
Pontiac is Dead
#27 of 241 G6 tranny and other problems
Apr 24, 2009 (9:09 am)
I really feel your G6 pain. I have a 2006 G6. Rides nice, fits good, and thats about it. I have the 2.4 L. Tranny clunks...apparently it is building up too much pressure. Then the Engine light started coming on...apparently Camshaft Position Sensor, then Steering Clunk...Replaced Steering Shaft for the second time. Ran over a Raccoon...that took out my rad, and condensor...Ooops my fault not GM's.
Then that passanger side airbag sensor showed a service airbag warning. I don't have leather seats as in the GM recall, so I don't know what was up with that.