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Vehicle Safety Recall Report Recall Alert: PONTIAC G6 Owner Notification Date: Feb 17, 2009 Number of Units Potentially Affected: 8012 Component Description: EXTERIOR LIGHTING:BRAKE LIGHTS NHTSA Campaign Number: 09V036000 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Description of Recall Campaign: GM IS RECALLING 8,012 MY 2005-2006 PONTIAC G6 VEHICLES. THE BRAKE LAMPS MAY NOT OPERATE PROPERLY BECAUSE OF CORROSION IN A WIRING CONNECTOR. CORROSION IN THE CONNECTOR COULD CAUSE THE BRAKE LAMPS TO ILLUMINATE WHEN THE BRAKE PEDAL HAS NOT BEEN DEPRESSED, OR THE LAMPS MAY NOT ILLUMINATE WHEN THE BRAKE PEDAL IS DEPRESSED. IN ADDITION, THE CRUISE CONTROL MAY NOT ENGAGE, AND GREATER BRAKE PEDAL FORCE MAY BE REQUIRED TO SHIFT THE VEHICLE OUT OF PARK. BRAKE LAMPS THAT ARE NOT OPERATING PROPERLY MAY NOT WARN A DRIVER IN A FOLLOWING VEHICLE OF THE BRAKING STATUS AND COULD LEAD TO A CRASH WITHOUT PRIOR WARNING. DEALERS WILL APPLY A DIELECTRIC LUBRICANT TO THE CONNECTOR TO PREVENT CORROSION. THIS SERVICE WILL BE PERFORMED FOR YOU FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN ON OR BEFORE FEBRUARY 17, 2009. OWNERS MAY CONTACT PONTIAC AT 1- 800-620-7668 OR OWNER CENTER AT WWW.GMOWNERCENTER.COM. GM RECALL NO. 80317.CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV . |
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I am curious if the calipers might be the root of the G6's (and other Pontiac) problems. As I understand it, Pontiac calipers do not move straight in and out but rather they turn a corkscrew motion. It seem logical that if the inside of those threads became rusted even slightly then you would have pads constantly applying pressure to some extent against the rotors. This in turn would lead to premature failure of all parts as well as reduced gas mileage. Would also explain the situations when people had their rotors glowing red on the highway! I have also just had my rotors turned by the dealership for the 2nd time (bought at 17K currently at 33K) and also need pads. I am considering trying to find aftermarket calipers as well. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Replying to: jeffsayers (Jun 03, 2009 12:08 pm) I am not a person that is hard on my cars engine nor the brakes... I drive mostly highway, less city. However, makes me wonder if it is normal. I had this on my 06 Accord, but it was later on at about 25,000 or so when it every now and then showed up. Some of this normal?
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Replying to: jeffsayers (Jun 03, 2009 12:08 pm) |
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Jun 12, 2009 9:07 am) |
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I may have solved my brake/rotor issues. So far, so good. Apparently I've been lucky, because I didn't have to replace brakes until about 45k on my 2006 G6. But I was doomed after that, of course. They said my rotors were absolutely fine when I replaced the front brakes - I made sure of that. The problems started immediately. Squeaking, squeeling, etc. I think they had to replace my brake pads four times. Then they told me my rotors were bad, but not before accusing me of being "hard on my brakes." (Then I reminded them that the first set lasted 45k.) So, here's what I discovered after lots of Q&A with mechanics and owners: I had my brakes replaced at Goodyear. I usually ask for "good" brakes, a step or two above the cheap ones. Apparently that was a bad idea, because Goodyear installed CERAMIC brakes. Until now, I didn't know the difference. Well, apparently ceramic brakes need to be paired with rotors that are a bit tougher and not so worn-out. So, at 45k, putting brand new ceramic brake pads on my old rotors was a really bad thing to do - my rotors didn't have a chance. I have a feeling if I had put the cheapest brake pads available on my car, my rotors would have been fine for a while. Goodyear, of course, denies this. They won't take the blame for putting incompatible brake pads on my old rotors. And, interesting -- My mom owns a Saturn Vue. She's at around 35k. She had to replace her brakes at the same time that I did. She went to a different shop but had the exact same problems. Literally, the EXACT same problems. In fact, she's still dealing with the problems. I think the Vue has the same rotors/brakes as the G6. So after resurfacing my rotors twice and burning through 4 sets of ceramic brake pads on my G6, I finally decided to take matters into my own hands. I did some research online, spoke to some mechanics, and came up with a plan. Since our G6's have problems with overheated rotors, a mechanic recommended a drilled/slotted rotor. Since I am sour on ceramic brakes, I went ahead and bought the brake pads that were recommended for the new rotors. I ended up purchasing EBC 3GD Sport slotted and dimpled front brake discs. Then I purchased the "Greenstuff" brakes that went along with them. (I purchased online at Summit Racing.) My order arrived and I took everything to Brake Masters and had them installed. Additionally, I made sure to specfically tell them to NOT use the electric tool to tighten the lug nuts. Apparently the number 1 cause of overheated rotors is over-torqued lug nuts. I didn't want to take any chances. So they installed the new brakes and rotors. When I paid for the labor, the manager openly told me (without me asking) that he's not sure if what I did is going to solve my problems. I never told him I had a problem, so I inquired... He said the Pontiac G6 is the worst car in the world with brakes & rotors. He thinks Pontiac has a huge problem that they're going to have to do something about. Anyway, I am staying positive... I drove out and couldn't believe the difference. The new set up is absolutely SILENT, I have NO VIBRATION, and my car STOPS perfectly. I've driven it several hundred miles already, and I have absolutely NO PROBLEMS with my new rotors and brakes. I'm convinced my car is cured. Whether it was just the rotors, just the brakes, or a combination of the two - whatever I did WORKED. So I wanted to get on these boards and share that information, just in case there are others out there who are ready to do some brake/rotor replacement, or who are having problems. So far, so good with this setup. If my status changes, I will certainly log on and let you all know. I guess there's a good chance I may encounter problems in a few thousand miles... But I can't imagine why?? If my first set of brakes/rotors (the cheap junk that Pontiac gave us) lasted 45k, I can't imagine why replacing BOTH parts with brand new, better-quality parts won't last just as long, if not longer. ~ Jenny 
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Replying to: jennyag6 (Jul 08, 2009 10:20 am) I think i have same problem as you HAD. I have 06 Pontiac G6 95k. I just bought it and i really love it. One thing that i notice from beggining is that on my (driving) side there is this little "thump"sound in area where the tire is. I am almost convinced that my rotor /caliper are not doing good together anymore. Car was sitting at the dealership for who know how long and the corrosion must have done it. What i am interested about is where and and what product did you get to SOLVE this problem ?? How much should i be looking spending for this. THanks!
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Replying to: bveljovic (Jul 09, 2009 4:12 am) 
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Replying to: bxgirlnsc (Jul 09, 2009 6:55 am)
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Replying to: gonogo (Jul 09, 2009 7:20 am) That's fine and dandy for a Chevy, but we are talking about Pontiacs here. Secondly, I don't care how dang hard you are on brakes; in no case should they need to be replaced at 20 some thousand miles.
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