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Pontiac G6, Brakes, Coupe, Convertible, Sedan
#128 of 167 Re: pontiac rental brake problem [civicowner3]
Mar 10, 2010 (10:20 am)
ABS brake systems have been known to lose braking power at application. The problem is it is hard to prove.
Lots of times it is not a accident situation, they just report it to there dealer. Go to the NHTSA site and what's been reported.
#129 of 167 Re: Brakes/Rotors - Solved? [bxgirlnsc]
May 27, 2010 (9:48 am)
I think my G6-06 is following the same pattern.
The front left wheel indicated something was wrong.
I had it checked by Midas , Canadian Tire. Midas said wheel bearing is not doing great, but suggested to just get tires ( i was suspicious)
Canadian Tire guy just said my tires were not rotated so uneven wear was his explanation ( he rotated the tire to the back)
10 months later:
I have been experiencing vibration/rumble in the same front left wheel when i brake (even with new tires installed 2 days ago)......
The question to be answered: Is it rotor that is bad, or wheel bearing ? Or BOTH !?
In case I have to get rotors , brake pads,bearing ...can anyone suggest what/where should i get something thats going last more then a 1-2 years.
I got a quote from Midas for 384$ rotor + pads+labor ( mid value option)..... is this ok?
Thanks pontiac "fans".
#130 of 167 Re: Brakes/Rotors - Solved? [bveljovic]
May 27, 2010 (10:38 am)
Well sounds like your rotor. My car was making that noise even while driving. So far I have had to get my right wheel bearing and a tire rod. My rotors were also replaced now my car drives and sounds perfect. Try resurfacing your rotor first then get them replaced if that don't work. this is a high performance car so I would get the best rotors I could afford. All in all after the front end was fixed I love my g6 and wouldn't trade it.
May 27, 2010 (10:53 am)
I have also found this car goes through tires fairly quick. If your tires don't have enough tread the abs will kick in (sounds like grinding brakes) don't fix your abs (like I was told by mechanics) just get new tires. It helped me.
#132 of 167 I'm Baaaaaaaaaack! NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT!
Jun 29, 2010 (4:40 pm)
Remember me? I think my first post was somewhere around #98, if you want to refresh your memories, almost a year ago. Sorry I didn't get back here sooner to respond to some of you who were inquiring about the brakes and rotors I purchased. They have met their demise, however, so it probably did me no good. (Read on.)
My Story: 2006 G6, currently with 76,400 miles.
Yes, I drive a lot, but I also take very good care of my car, and, like some of you have mentioned, it's all long-distance open-road driving in the middle of the day with no traffic. And I'm easy on my brakes. Probably overly-easy on them after having two Pontiacs! (Prior to this G6, I drove a Sunfire over 100k miles - had similar issues with its brakes and rotors, although not quite this bad.) Should have learned my lesson!
To you people who say it's my fault - screw you. I can only wish this upon you so that you can learn your lesson. There are so many consumer complaints about this, it's absolutely ridiculous. And every time I take it in, no matter where I take it, everyone tells me that it's a known G6 issue. So nobody is going to convince me this is my fault.
Let me start by saying I LOVE my car. It's the brakes, rotors, and front end alignment that I hate.
And, this car has had the I-Shaft "steering wheel clunk" problem since under 20,000 miles. It was replaced twice, I complained about it numerous times after that, had it re-lubed once (because they told me it was a defective part AND a defective replacement part, so no sense in replacing it again!), and then I just GAVE UP. It just clunks....and clunks, and clunks... And don't think that the re-lube is going to fix it. I had it relubed once, and the first turn I made out of the lot pretty much BROKE it, to the point where the dealer had to replace it AGAIN with another defective part. So screw the re-lubing. Just forget about it and get used to the clunking. It's not going away.
At 21k my brakes were already in the yellow.
At 38k, I replaced the front brakes AND had the car aligned.(Anyone else want to complain about the alignment?)
All of my problems ALWAYS start after the first set of brakes are replaced, so let the games begin!...
At 50k, had to resurface the rotors.
At 54k, had to install new rotors AND new front brakes.
Now, let me explain what I did: For those of you who think that installing high performance, extra cool rotors and special brakes will make some sort of difference... I purchased high performance, cross-drilled rotors, and the brakes that were recommended to go along with them. Figured... Problem Solved! But, no... keep reading!
At a little over 54k, I had to do another alignment.
At 64k, another alignment was recommended and performed.
At 71k, brakes are in the yellow again.
And now, today, at 76k, had to resurface the new rotors!
I can guarantee you that in a couple thousand miles I'll need NEW rotors and front brakes AGAIN.
My high performance rotors lasted 20k before they needed resurfacing. Some of you might think that's better mileage than stock, and it might be, but it's still absolutely ridiculous. It appears there is a 3-year warranty on these, so I am hoping it will be honored.
I thought I had my problem solved. So for those of you who think you are "lucky" because you've replaced these things and you think you aren't going to have any more problems... HA! to you! It'll sneak up on you and bite you in the ass, I promise.
It's NOT an issue of "cheap" rotors.
Let me quote a mechanic from another forum: "It's not the part, it's the design on the vehicle that warps the rotors."
The clunk you all describe - It's a defective I-Shaft. Period. And good luck with that!
So, let's summarize what we can do:
http://www.odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm OR 1-888-327-4236 -- FILE A COMPLAINT with the NHTSA
Safercar.gov -- FILE A COMPLAINT with the government
1-800-762-2737 -- Call Pontiac and FILE A COMPLAINT
I just spent another $88 to resurface my "high performance" rotors, and I am PISSED.
#133 of 167 Re: I'm Baaaaaaaaaack! NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT! [jennyag6]
Jul 01, 2010 (9:00 am)
First off the clunk is an easy fix, even a women can do it.
I owned a 04 Malibu Z, body same car, with 40K not even half worn brakes. Now have a 09 G6 with only 12 K, so not sure how the brakes are doing. Pontiac is rotating them for free. Next year I will then be doing the rotation, will then see what the brakes look like.
#134 of 167 Re: I'm Baaaaaaaaaack! NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT! [jennyag6]
Sep 02, 2010 (2:21 pm)
Thanks for the suggestion, I just filed complaints!!
#135 of 167 Re: I'm Baaaaaaaaaack! NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT! [thatnat]
Sep 08, 2010 (6:17 am)
I have a 2007 G6 with less than 35K miles. In July of 2009 at 21k miles of driving to/from college and 1 1k trip, there was a groove on the inside of all four (4) rotors. The brake pads had a matching mark, but still had plenty of pad material. The inside of the rotors is protected by a metal shield, so if would be very hard to have a small object get wedged in between pads and rotor. Dealer stated rotors were warped and that caused the groove. How can all FOUR (4) rotors warp in such away to cause the same damage?
Dealer refused to acknowledge a defect and I was told to replace rotors and pads. I looked on internet forums and found thousands of similar complaints. I looked at www.safecar.gov (NHTSA site) and found less than 10 complaints. Today there are 21 specific to brake ware. Stop complaining here and complain where it counts, the NHTSA. Look at Toyota and how long that went on before the NHTSA took action. The more complaints at NHTSA, the more likely they will take notice and do something.
With regards to my brakes. Screw the GM OEM quality. They are less than good. I replaced all rotors with slotted and drilled EBC rotors designed to work with ceramic brakes. I replaced all brake pads with EBC Green Stuff ceramic pads. More than 1 year and 13k miles and rotors and pads look great. Plenty of pad material and the rotors are smooth, clean and straight.
The manufacturers are taking short cuts in materials and quality to save money and refusing to acknowledge problems until Big Brother (NHTSA) gets involved. Replace your components with high quality aftermarket better than OEM equipment and complain, complain, complain at www.safecar.gov.
#136 of 167 Re: I'm Baaaaaaaaaack! NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT! [bigtimegmowner]
Sep 08, 2010 (8:17 am)
Curious, how did you find grooves behind the shield of all four rotors, no one ever looks there.
As for NHTSA doing something about brake & rotor wear good luck, brakes are normal wear items, fast or slow.
#137 of 167 Re: Brakes/Rotors - Solved? [jeffsayers]
Dec 24, 2010 (9:58 am)
My 09 G6 brake experience.
I just received my last free service from Pontiac, they did a complete inspection. 18K miles the front brake pads were good and the rear pads were excellent.
I will do the next tire rotation myself and will make another report, at about 25K miles.