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Should cell phone drivers be singled out?

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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [gagrice] by xrunner2
Oct 18, 2006 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 18, 2006 7:41 am)

I believe forcing seatbelt and helmet laws on us is much more a violation of civil liberties than stopping people from using a cell phone that could cause others harm.
 
Wonder if all those who are concerned with this matter would agree to an optional fee on their auto insurance premium. You could pay the standard amount or you could pay it plus an optional additional fee to cover medical fees for all those folks who don't wear belts/helmets for their "extra" injuries that could have been prevented. This optional amount could also help cover those injured in accidents caused by cell phone users.
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [fintail] by tpe
Oct 18, 2006 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Oct 18, 2006 8:10 am)

What about buckling up AND wearing a helmet? You know, like the race car drivers. I'm guessing that would have to save at least a couple hundred lives a year. It seems like common sense to me but I see very few people wearing helmets while they drive. If you don't buckle up AND wear a helmet, you're stupid... it's an easy equation.
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [tpe] by fintail
Oct 18, 2006 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: tpe (Oct 18, 2006 8:31 am)

I have no problem with it...even though it is a ridiculous comparison
 
I don't expect a straight answer about which liberties are being violated.
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [wideglide] by snakeweasel
Oct 18, 2006 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: wideglide (Oct 18, 2006 7:09 am)

Indeed. Like my friend who got a broken leg and lots of other injuries on his bike when a 19 year old girl made a left turn right into his path.....
 
Indeed just like when I had a walk signal and almost got hit by a young girl making a right turn. Was she on a cell phone? NO. Was she applying makeup? NO. was she reading a book? NO. What was she doing? Just driving and nothing else including paying attention. I saw nothing that was distracting this driver as she came within a foot of me as she made a right turn but I seriously doubt she saw me, or realized where I was.
 
just remember; it only takes a second or two of inattention.
 
Yep it just takes a second or two which can be taken up by changing radio stations (BTW when radios first appeared in cars people were all outraged saying it would distract drivers), checking directions, looking at your Nav system (hey if cell phones are outlawed they should get rid of nav systems too), reading a sign alongside a road, and on and on.
 
Hey I almost got into trouble a few months ago when I took my eyes off the road and someone came out onto the street when my eyes were not focused on the road ahead of me. What was I doing you ask? I was looking to see if the lane next to me was clear in order to make a lane change.
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [wideglide] by tpe
Oct 18, 2006 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: wideglide (Oct 18, 2006 7:09 am)

Indeed. Like my friend who got a broken leg and lots of other injuries on his bike when a 19 year old girl made a left turn right into his path..... while talking on her cell phone
 
According to the NHTSA pedestrian and pedacyclist fatalities have declined by 30% since 1975. Injuries have declined by 40%. And that is total number not some rate per miles driven or registered vehicle. I realize that is not going to impress anyone as much as their anecdotal evidence of something they've witnessed.
 
10 or 12 years ago, there were no cell phones, and we somehow managed to survive!
 
100 years ago there were no cars and we also managed to survive. How many of the over 40k traffic fatalities per year are a result of driving?
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [snakeweasel] by rockylee
Oct 18, 2006 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Oct 18, 2006 8:59 am)

Hey I almost got into trouble a few months ago when I took my eyes off the road and someone came out onto the street when my eyes were not focused on the road ahead of me. What was I doing you ask? I was looking to see if the lane next to me was clear in order to make a lane change.
 
That is why you need BLISS. Speaking of changing radio stations or CD's, climate setting, etc, that is why a Voice Recognition System should be safety standards.
 
Rocky
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [tpe] by snakeweasel
Oct 18, 2006 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: tpe (Oct 18, 2006 8:31 am)

What about buckling up AND wearing a helmet?
 
Better yet after that wrap yourself up in bubble wrap, then fill the car with some soft compress able material (like those shipping peanuts) hang tires all around your car (like a tugboat) and drive less than 20 MPH.
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [fintail] by snakeweasel
Oct 18, 2006 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Oct 18, 2006 8:40 am)

I don't expect a straight answer about which liberties are being violated.
 
Personal choice regarding something that just effects yourself.
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [rockylee] by snakeweasel
Oct 18, 2006 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Oct 18, 2006 9:03 am)

That is why you need BLISS. Speaking of changing radio stations or CD's, climate setting, etc, that is why a Voice Recognition System should be safety standards.
 
What about those people where a voice recognition system will not work?
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [snakeweasel] by rockylee
Oct 18, 2006 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Oct 18, 2006 9:14 am)

What about those people where a voice recognition system will not work?
 
What are you talking about pal? Can you be a lil' more specific.
 
Thanx
 
Rocky

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