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Should cell phone drivers be singled out?

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Re: Anyone see... [snakeweasel] by gagrice
Oct 16, 2006 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Oct 16, 2006 5:05 pm)

Do you have stats to back that up
 
NOPE, just a long memory of all the yahoos that made me miss a left turn light because they were talking on the phone and not paying attention to the lights. Or sitting at a stop sign in a cell phone fog letting several of their turns go by, making me wait for them. Some times honking does not get their attention as they have an ear plug.
 
What amazes me is how far behind CA is on this subject. Many places beat them to the punch. usually CA is at the leading edge of making new restrictive laws.
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [saabgirl] by snakeweasel
Oct 16, 2006 (6:32 pm)
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Replying to: saabgirl (Oct 16, 2006 5:57 pm)

Guaranteed it's an obsessive gabber trying to dial numbers on a phone keypad not much bigger than my thumbnail.
 
Or someone putting on makeup, or shaving or reading a book, or yelling at their kids, or reading a map or.....point is its not always cell phone users.
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Re: Anyone see... [gagrice] by snakeweasel
Oct 16, 2006 (6:33 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 16, 2006 6:21 pm)

I get those yahoos all the time and most are doing something else than using a cell phone.
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plus by nippononly
Oct 16, 2006 (7:19 pm)
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don't forget, a cell phone to the ear is one of the few distractions you could observe as you drive by. Many distractions would be below the window line, and you wouldn't be able to see them.
 
And as for the Mythbusters, they should do the same test, only force the non-drunk driver to eat a full Big Mac combo, taking care not to drip on the upholstery.
 
Or drive in an unfamiliar area, and find his destination on a paper map, or use his car's navigation system without voice commands, while driving. All things I regularly see people do. I bet we would find that many of them would be as impaired as a drunk person too.
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Re: Anyone see... [snakeweasel] by phinneas519
Oct 16, 2006 (8:30 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Oct 16, 2006 5:02 pm)

Generally, they only depart from using the scientific method when a myth is busted and they want to see "what it would take" to get a particular result. I would like to add that there is nothing refined, scientific or methodical about distractions with cellular technology (or drinking for that matter) causing drivers to collide with pedestrians and other motorists.
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [saabgirl] by tpe
Oct 17, 2006 (4:51 am)
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Replying to: saabgirl (Oct 16, 2006 5:57 pm)

You can't convince me it's a mere coincidence that improvements in airbag technology coincide with an increase in multitasking drivers
 
Airbags may save lives but they don't prevent accidents. The accident rate per 100 million vehicle mile travelled has continued to decrease during the cell phone age. Would the rate have gone down further? Maybe.
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Re: Anyone see... [phinneas519] by snakeweasel
Oct 17, 2006 (5:25 am)
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Replying to: phinneas519 (Oct 16, 2006 8:30 pm)

They deviate from the scientific method quite often, even when they "prove" a myth.
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Re: Anyone see... [snakeweasel] by kirstie_h HOST
Oct 17, 2006 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Oct 16, 2006 5:02 pm)

I see Mythbusters often and didn't see that episode...
 
I highly recommend the box set. Lots of stuff gets set on fire or blown up.
 
It seems like cell phone usage is just the target-du-jour. I wonder if significantly fewer people are now dying in car accidents since most states passed seat belt laws... the hot issue some 5 years ago.
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Re: Anyone see... [kirstie_h] by xrunner2
Oct 17, 2006 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Oct 17, 2006 7:10 am)

It seems like cell phone usage is just the target-du-jour. I wonder if significantly fewer people are now dying in car accidents since most states passed seat belt laws... the hot issue some 5 years ago.
 
Would agree that seat belt laws have helped. But, consider a whole range of things that have improved over last 5-10 years: vehicle structures to help protect occupants, emt response times, hospital procedures and doctors, vehicle dynamics (tires/susp/steering), numerous air bags (front, side, etc), highway design/lighting/signage/traffic controls/etc, attention focussed on drunk driving by MADD and others and so on.
 
In one way, cell phone usage has probably also helped cut down on accident deaths because most motorists probably have cell phones and they can call 911 when they observe or encounter an accident. The emts can get to the accident quicker than they would have back in pre-cell phone days. This can save lives. Think about how it was 20+ years ago. If you saw an accident happen, had to find a nearby house, store, gas station, phone booth to call emt/911.

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