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Should cell phone drivers be singled out?

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Re: Should cell phone users be singled out? [nippononly] by tpe
Oct 16, 2006 (3:32 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 16, 2006 12:08 pm)

If a person feels that driving doesn't require 100% of his attention he is going to choose to multi-task. Take away his cell phone and he will find something else to do with what he considers to be his spare attention. Its futility but enacting laws provides a sense of security for some.
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Anyone see... by kirstie_h HOST
Oct 16, 2006 (4:05 pm)
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OK, I'm admitting to full-on geekdom here, but the Mythbusters episode during which they did a driving course comparison, one with drivers near the legal alcohol limit, and the other with them answering questions on while on a cell phone? Startling results... drivers were just as impaired with alcohol as when holding a cell phone conversation that required moderate concentration.
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Re: Anyone see... [kirstie_h] by tpe
Oct 16, 2006 (4:25 pm)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Oct 16, 2006 4:05 pm)

I've heard numbers like 40% of all highway fatalities are alcohol related. I've got to believe there are more people driving and using cell phones than there are drunk drivers. So in the last 15 years we have introduced on our roadways a new danger that is equivalent to what was causing 40% of our fatalities and it hasn't even registered a blip on the stats. Something doesn't make sense here.
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Re: Anyone see... [tpe] by cccompson
Oct 16, 2006 (4:34 pm)
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Replying to: tpe (Oct 16, 2006 4:25 pm)

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that 40 percent of highway fatalities are cellphone related.
 
Bear in mind that the rise in cellphone use has happened at the same time as greatly increased vehicle safety systems and seat belt usage.
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Re: Anyone see... [tpe] by gagrice
Oct 16, 2006 (4:58 pm)
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Replying to: tpe (Oct 16, 2006 4:25 pm)

That 40% was before the heavy crackdown on drunk driving. I think that Cell phone usage has taken the place of drunk drivers causing accidents. There are a quite a few high profile accidents that were proven to be cell phone related. The difference between cell phone and other type distractions is subtle. It is hard to know if some one is being told to get a loaf of bread or that their boyfriend just died in an accident.
 
I think it is best to just outlaw use of them in the car while moving. Easier to enforce with a law.
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Re: Anyone see... [kirstie_h] by snakeweasel
Oct 16, 2006 (5:02 pm)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Oct 16, 2006 4:05 pm)

I see Mythbusters often and didn't see that episode, I would have liked to have seen it so I could comment on it though. One thing to remember that these people are not the best in the scientific method.
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Re: Anyone see... [gagrice] by snakeweasel
Oct 16, 2006 (5:05 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 16, 2006 4:58 pm)

I think that Cell phone usage has taken the place of drunk drivers causing accidents.
 
Do you have stats to back that up.
 
I think it is best to just outlaw use of them in the car while moving. Easier to enforce with a law.
 
On another forum here on edmunds someone mentioned being rear ended by someone distracted by the Fuji blimp, should we outlaw that?
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Why, pray tell, can't ... by saabgirl
Oct 16, 2006 (5:57 pm)
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...drivers who need to talk on the phone simply pull off the road and do so? Yes, this also applies to eating sammiches, reading the paper, applying makeup, changing a diaper, petting dogs etc. Whatever.
 
This all started, I think, when cupholders became an accepted part of interior design. The implication is that drivers are such good multitaskers that they can do several things while traveling at 80 per or negotiating heavy traffic. You can't convince me it's a mere coincidence that improvements in airbag technology coincide with an increase in multitasking drivers.
 
Yeah, I hear ya -- Why pick on cell phone users? What about all the other multitasking bumblers? It's simple -- you have to begin somewhere, and cell phone users are such conspicuously incompetent mobile irritants that they have it coming.
 
The next time you're in a line of traffic on an interstate and can't figure out why one lane is speeding up/slowing down/speeding up/slowing down etcetc, just pass everyone and then pause to observe the lead car. Guaranteed it's an obsessive gabber trying to dial numbers on a phone keypad not much bigger than my thumbnail.
 
Even worse is the gabber at the head of the line when the left turn arrow turns green. GO, idjit! And don't get all passive aggressive when you get the horn.
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Re: Anyone see... [snakeweasel] by gagrice
Oct 16, 2006 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Oct 16, 2006 5:05 pm)

Do you have stats to back that up
 
NOPE, just a long memory of all the yahoos that made me miss a left turn light because they were talking on the phone and not paying attention to the lights. Or sitting at a stop sign in a cell phone fog letting several of their turns go by, making me wait for them. Some times honking does not get their attention as they have an ear plug.
 
What amazes me is how far behind CA is on this subject. Many places beat them to the punch. usually CA is at the leading edge of making new restrictive laws.
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [saabgirl] by snakeweasel
Oct 16, 2006 (6:32 pm)
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Replying to: saabgirl (Oct 16, 2006 5:57 pm)

Guaranteed it's an obsessive gabber trying to dial numbers on a phone keypad not much bigger than my thumbnail.
 
Or someone putting on makeup, or shaving or reading a book, or yelling at their kids, or reading a map or.....point is its not always cell phone users.

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