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#3684 of 3688 Re: Working together to develop a solution based on facts [srs_49] by lilengineerboy Oct 09, 2009 (5:28 am)
Replying to: srs_49 (Oct 09, 2009 4:15 am) That article was provided to show they had dropped the "drunk driving" issue from their mantra. I think there are some concerns with the study methodology:   1. They only studied people who crashed, which is already a very small subset, and of those, only those who would provide phone records 2. The study compared phone records, not calls or content, not weather, not driving conditions, not traffic conditions 3. They compared the people who crashed on a given day to the day before (which presumably, they did not crash 4. They may or may not have been on the phone during that time period the day before 5. They may or may not have been driving during that time period the day before   In our research, we found that drivers were 4 times more likely to have a collision when using a cellular telephone than when not using a cellular telephone. What we wish we had explained more clearly in our article, however, was that this increase was not calculated in comparison to the risk of collision under ideal circumstances of no distractions. Actually, the increase was relative to the risk of collision when the driver drove with his or her usual background distractions. Making calls on a cellular telephone is distinctly more risky than listening to the radio, talking to passengers and other activities commonly occurring in vehicles   Based on their methodology, I don't quite get how they can make that statement. They are comparing actions on one day to actions on another day. They have no idea if someone is any more or less likely to have adjusted the radio or had a passenger on one day vs another.   That said, there is no "ideal driving circumstances with no distraction." In driving studies, (such as the Virgina Tech study) the "just drive" risk wasn't statistically different than the "hands free call." Replies to this message: srs_49 (Oct 09, 2009 5:44 am)
#3685 of 3688 Re: Working together to develop a solution based on facts [lilengineerboy] by srs_49 Oct 09, 2009 (5:44 am)
Replying to: lilengineerboy (Oct 09, 2009 5:28 am) 4. They may or may not have been on the phone during that time period the day before 5. They may or may not have been driving during that time period the day before   From the original NEJM article, it stated that:   Methods We studied 699 drivers who had cellular telephones and who were involved in motor vehicle collisions resulting in substantial property damage but no personal injury. Each person's cellular-telephone calls on the day of the collision and during the previous week were analyzed through the use of detailed billing records.   From that, I would conclude that the study did include for the fact that they may or may not have been on the cell phone the day before the crash, and that they were driving.
#3686 of 3688 Maria is singled out by steve_ HOST Oct 13, 2009 (6:09 pm)
Calif. First Lady Caught Talking On Phone While Driving (WCBS-TV) Replies to this message: srs_49 (Oct 14, 2009 2:57 am)
#3687 of 3688 Re: Maria is singled out [steve_] by srs_49 Oct 14, 2009 (2:57 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Oct 13, 2009 6:09 pm) Ahhhh, yes. But you see, the law doesn't apply to her, because (unlike the other 99.9% of the schmucks out there) she is a excellent driver who can easily multitask without becoming a safety problem for others. Talking on the cell, checking her makeup in the mirror, texting, programming the in-dash nav system, whacking the kids in the back seat - all just part of the routine for Maria   In all seriousness, I'm glad Arnie is going to have talk with her.
#3688 of 3688 Looks interesting - especially if you have teen drivers by Sylvia STAFF Oct 27, 2009 (11:39 am)
A friend of mine sent me this survey today about a device for cars. I thought it looked useful, especially if you have teen drivers in the household.   http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=oT03a3YvYFO_2b9MnD2uOZ6Q_3d_3d

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