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Should cell phone drivers be singled out?

3688 messages,  Last post on Oct 27, 2009 at 11:39 AM

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Re: out of Sync? [xrunner2] by kdshapiro
Mar 04, 2009 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Mar 04, 2009 4:59 am)

Drivers using cell phones selfishly think that their inattention while driving only slightly impairs their reaction time and that is OK because they want the cell convenience and are fully willing to impair their driving. Kind of like spoiled kids.
 
Can you prove this statement? Where is the connection between driver inattention and fatalities and crashes? Does it really matter that drivers who pay full attention have to make avoidance maneuvers, with increasing frequency, to those who yak and text as long as nobody was hurt of any sheetmetal dented? In other words, no harm, no foul?
 
Wait which side am I on? :sick
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Re: out of Sync? [steve_] by lilengineerboy
Mar 05, 2009 (5:19 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Mar 03, 2009 7:56 pm)

We are talking about driving simulators, not toys.
Ford VIRTTEX:
 

 
Autoblog on VIRTTEX
 
VIRTTEX
 
Toyota's

 
Toyota's Simulator on Autoblog
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Re: out of Sync? [lilengineerboy] by steve_ HOST
Mar 05, 2009 (5:29 pm)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Mar 05, 2009 5:19 pm)

Now those are cool. Any idea how much the Ford one costs? Probably a bit out of reach for driving schools.
 
And from your Vittrex link:
 
"The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration estimates that driver distraction and inattention contribute up to 30 percent of crashes each year."
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Re: out of Sync? [steve_] by lilengineerboy
Mar 05, 2009 (8:12 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Mar 05, 2009 5:29 pm)

"The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration estimates that driver distraction and inattention contribute up to 30 percent of crashes each year."
 
Which includes: eating pizza, tuning the radio, smacking children, fighting with spouse, picking nose, plucking ebrows, watching adult videos on DVD players, drinking coffee, talking on the phone, reading a map, programming an aftermarket nav system, tying shoes...
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Re: out of Sync? [lilengineerboy] by lilengineerboy
Mar 06, 2009 (4:18 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Mar 05, 2009 5:19 pm)

A few more -
NADS
 (that's really what its called) / NHTSA & University of Iowa

 
I still can't find a picture of Mercedes' simulator.
 
Most universities/companies use a fixed base simulator with a built up cab, or BUC, like this one at University of Michigan.
 
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Re: out of Sync? [lilengineerboy] by xrunner2
Mar 06, 2009 (4:41 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Mar 05, 2009 8:12 pm)

You are just making excuses for and trying to justify cell phone drivers' irresponsible behaviour. Just try this sometime. In suburban and/or shopping center areas, observe (I know, slight distraction in observing, but don't stare or dwell) drivers' faces. What percent of all drivers observed are eating pizza, smacking children, fighting with spouse, picking nose, plucking eyebrows, reading a map VS. talking on the phone. In a number of years of observing, really casually "noticing", I very rarely recall seeing smacking children, picking nose, etc. I do see "every single day" numerous, numerous instances of drivers holding cell phone to ear AND usually being a pain in the a** to other drivers around them. These selfish, inconsiderate drivers many times are holding up traffic, not as aware of conditions around them. They are the jerks.
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Re: out of Sync? [lilengineerboy] by kdshapiro
Mar 06, 2009 (5:42 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Mar 05, 2009 8:12 pm)

Can you prove your "factoid"? Can you assign percentages to all of them. Because I can add, standing out of the sunroof, adjusting the mats in your car, moving your seat back and forth, shifting, adjusting the mirrors. I would really be interested in knowing how many crashes are caused by picking your nose vs talking on a cell phone.
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Re: out of Sync? [xrunner2] by kdshapiro
Mar 06, 2009 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Mar 06, 2009 4:41 am)

Your conversations are falling on deaf ears. It amazes me that after all of the studies people still say: prove it that talking on a cell phone leads to more crashes than picking your nose.
 
The only thought I can offer, is my nose doesn't come with a disclaimer that picking your nose while driving can lead to serious consequences. But my cell phone manual does.
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Re: out of Sync? [xrunner2] by lilengineerboy
Mar 06, 2009 (3:56 pm)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Mar 06, 2009 4:41 am)

You are just making excuses for and trying to justify cell phone drivers' irresponsible behaviour.
 
No more so than any other distracted driver's irresponsible behavior.
 
In suburban and/or shopping center areas, observe (I know, slight distraction in observing, but don't stare or dwell) drivers' faces. What percent of all drivers observed are eating pizza, smacking children, fighting with spouse, picking nose, plucking eyebrows, reading a map VS. talking on the phone.
 
Wow, so you found people talking on the phone. Go into the men's room, and observe how many gents are peeing (again, i would take your advice and not stare or dwell)...now you found people peeing; what is your point? We have lots of data that implies a large number of drivers are on a cell phone at any given time.
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Re: out of Sync? [kdshapiro] by lilengineerboy
Mar 06, 2009 (4:01 pm)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Mar 06, 2009 5:45 am)

Your conversations are falling on deaf ears. It amazes me that after all of the studies people still say: prove it that talking on a cell phone leads to more crashes than picking your nose.
 
Not deaf ears...if they were deaf, then a cell phone would be a moot [mute?] point.
 
The only thought I can offer, is my nose doesn't come with a disclaimer that picking your nose while driving can lead to serious consequences. But my cell phone manual does.
 
That is an oversight by the big guy upstairs, when the supreme one created humans, there was still a concept of personal responsibility. Perhaps when my next child is born, I will have to sign a waiver for that.

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