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Should cell phone drivers be singled out?

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Re: this was inevitable... [xrunner2] by nippononly
Jan 12, 2009 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 12, 2009 7:32 am)

Actually, word is that mobile phone trade organizations are strongly opposed to any further ban on cell phone use. At least that's what the morning news said.
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Re: this was inevitable... [nippononly] by kdshapiro
Jan 12, 2009 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 12, 2009 6:53 am)

You beat me to it.
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Re: this was inevitable... [nippononly] by xrunner2
Jan 12, 2009 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 12, 2009 8:03 am)

Duh!! What would you expect them to say? Cell phone providers face big revenue losses with a total ban. We need a US Congressional hearing in this. Cell phone service providers need to be put in same situation as beer and spirits providers. They need to start showing responsibility.
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Re: this was inevitable... [xrunner2] by fintail
Jan 12, 2009 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 12, 2009 5:34 pm)

Remember, it's the USA...you get the laws you pay for.
 
Distracted drivers of all types need to start showing some responsibility...that's the genuine issue...but few seem to have the fortitude to face this.
 
Not to mention congress is in one hell of a position to hold anyone accountable for anything...
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Re: this was inevitable... [fintail] by xrunner2
Jan 12, 2009 (6:15 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 12, 2009 6:00 pm)

Distracted drivers are hugely from the cell phone usage variety. Once in a while, I might put a package of chocolate cookies from Costco on my center console. I can very easily pick a cookie without looking at the console and take a bite without distracting my attention from driving.
 
I have used cell phone while driving in the distant past and know that it is like drunk driving and not equivalent to eating a cookie.
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Re: this was inevitable... [xrunner2] by fintail
Jan 12, 2009 (6:58 pm)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 12, 2009 6:15 pm)

A lot of people will drop that cookie and veer around while trying to retrieve it, or misplace the box of cookies and veer around while they dig through all the garbage in their car, looking for it. It's best simply to not eat and drive. No food allowed in my cars
 
And then there are drinks, ICE, kids and other passengers, makeup/grooming, laptops...
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Re: this was inevitable... [fintail] by kdshapiro
Jan 13, 2009 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 12, 2009 6:58 pm)

Absolutely. I honestly don't care if there are separate laws on the books for all types of bad driving behaviors. A bad driver can cause a crash scratching their ears as easily as turning around to discipline their kids. But this same bad driver becomes a train wreck with a cell phone, while a good driver only becomes a bad driver.
 
I agree Congressional hearings are in order. Maybe the new administration will take this up.
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Better yet by boaz47
Jan 13, 2009 (12:13 pm)
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Show us the increased accident statistics and then put it to a vote. If cell phones cause more accidents decreased cell phones "have' to show a decrease in accidents.
 
I question if our congress will attack the cell phone industry in this economy? Maybe if they do pass a law they can also offer a several billion dollar bail out for loss caused by government intervention like they are doing for the auto industry.
 
But I would still like to see the people get a vote in the issue. Once on the ballot they have to show the cost to enforce and the cost in lost taxes because of what the industry pays. It would also be nice if they showed how many accidents have happened or how many will be reduced by such a law.
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techno fix by steve_ HOST
Jan 19, 2009 (11:08 pm)
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Technology to stop phone use in cars isn't perfect
 
As someone mentioned earlier, these solutions seem aimed mostly at teenaged drivers.
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Re: techno fix [steve_] by xrunner2
Jan 20, 2009 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 19, 2009 11:08 pm)

Maybe let the marketplace minimize driver (or passenger) cell phone use when car is moving by imposing huge per minute fees, $1, $2 or $5 per minute. Emergency calls to 911 would be exempt. This would need technology updates at cell towers and mobile switching centers of the cell phone service providers.
 
In a letter to the editor in a recent Chicago Tribune, the writer suggeted that legislation is needed to require vehicle mfrs to build in radio (cell phone frequency) jamming in ignition module when engine is running.
 
Except for an emergency, there is no need for ordinary citizens to talk on a cell phone while vehicle is moving. People just need to plan better to manage their lives and communication needs. Somehow, drivers/passengers managed to live and communicate without cell phones from 1900 to the early 1980's.

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