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Should cell phone drivers be singled out?

3688 messages,  Last post on Oct 27, 2009 at 11:39 AM

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Re: [steve_] by boaz47
Dec 25, 2008 (9:32 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 25, 2008 8:51 am)

This isn't rocket science. Lets take someone's favorite law when compared to this issue, DUI. They don't have to have a specific law dealing with scotch and another for beer and another for wine. The general DUI will cover the whole thing. Now if people drive under the influence of Pot, coke, or crack do they have to have a specific law? Or does DUI cover it. How about prescription pills? You guessed it they don't need a specific law. So lets suppose they, the police, decide it isn't worth their time to enforce. I am not suggesting they do but just suppose. Would it do any good to pass a law against Pot? Would it do to pass a specific law against beer? And here is a kicker, we now have a local education campaign on TV to assist the CHP in the enforcement of suspected DUIs. Guess what they are asking people to do? You guessed it, call the CHP or dial 911. They are asking the average untrained joe or joey to pick up their cell phone and call to report suspected DUI. Did you get that? DIAL 911 or whatever the local number for your CHP might be. Do you see a contradiction here? Someone in here has insisted dialing and talking on a cell phone is "worse" that driving under the influence and the CHP is asking people to call and report the supposed less evil? It isn't just California either, I have seen the signs along the road in Arizona, New Mexico and Colorado. What educational message does that send?
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Re: [boaz47] by steve_ HOST
Dec 25, 2008 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 25, 2008 9:32 am)

The implied message is to safely pull over to the shoulder, stop, and call.
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Re: [steve_] by boaz47
Dec 25, 2008 (6:22 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 25, 2008 9:51 am)

  I toss the fertilizer flag. The implied message? The operator will ask questions that you can't answer from the side of the road. we all have listened to 911 calls on TV.
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Re: [boaz47] by steve_ HOST
Dec 25, 2008 (6:53 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 25, 2008 6:22 pm)

Ouch - well, hopefully that'll be the last one of those flags I get this year. I'm running out of floor space.
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Re: [steve_] by boaz47
Dec 25, 2008 (7:36 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 25, 2008 6:53 pm)

Don't worry, you get to toss all the old ones out January 1st.
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you rang? by steve_ HOST
Dec 26, 2008 (8:51 am)
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Speaking of the educational component:
 
"[G]roups like NSC and AAA are gearing up for massive public awareness campaigns on par with those that were successful in turning public opinion against drunk driving.
 
One watchdog group has already gone as far as filing a lawsuit against the Bush administration, charging that records on traffic deaths related to phone use by drivers is being withheld by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration."
 
Groups to Push for More Curbs, Education on Phone Use Behind the Wheel in 2009
 
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Re: you rang? [steve_] by boaz47
Dec 26, 2008 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 26, 2008 8:51 am)

Oh yes, this is all Bush's fault. Johnson had Kennedy killed, there were space aliens killed in Roswell and we never landed on the moon. They all fit together.
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Re: you rang? [boaz47] by steve_ HOST
Dec 26, 2008 (2:22 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 26, 2008 2:13 pm)

Information wants to be free.
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every time by nippononly
Dec 27, 2008 (11:00 am)
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I think I will stay out of this thread permanently, it sucks me back in! Are we seriously proposing writing a new law for every thing we want to educate the public on from now on??!! That is absurd. How many laws do we want as a society? Personally, I say the less the better.
 
kd, if you seriously think that cops are now going to be pulling over people who they noticed looking down, I need to gather some links to videos of all the outrageous things police completely ignore routinely, every day, out on the roads. Not to mention they will be killing precious time on a driver who may or may not (since they could have been looking down at any of a dozen or more things, only one of which is a phone) have been breaking a law with a tiny fine and no driver penalty, when they could be giving out those juicy speeding tickets which, let's face it, occupy 99.9% of all enforcement time of every cop on the road. That is not an accident, they are directed to do so by the cities and counties paying their fairly high salaries, who want to see lots of expensive speeding, red light, and stop sign tickets rolling in, along with the revenue they generate.
 
There are counties along I-5 between LA and SF where going 15 over the limit will cost you well over $300, NOT including traffic school fees, and that's the speed everyone is going out there! Which do you suppose those counties want sheriffs and CHP giving out, the $300+ speeding tickets or the $20 cell phone tickets??
 
Bingo!
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Re: every time [nippononly] by steve_ HOST
Dec 27, 2008 (11:07 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 27, 2008 11:00 am)

every time I think I will stay out of this thread permanently, it sucks me back in!
 
Gotcha.
 
The driving distracted laws aren't working. Why not a new one? Or maybe make all driving distracted infractions a $300 ticket?

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