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Should cell phone drivers be singled out?

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Re: Should cell phone users be singled out? [snakeweasel] by atlvibe
Oct 16, 2006 (1:08 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Oct 16, 2006 11:56 am)

Agreed, it's all personal accountability. Paying attention to the road and your surroundings. Driving is privilege not a given right. I passed a one car accident scene a couple years back. A lone Hyundai rested squarely dead center against a wood utility pole. The conditions were, dry, clear, light traffic, middle of the afternoon, on a flat four lane road. It appeared the driver had gotten distracted and run dead center into the pole at posted 45mph speed. As I passed I noticed a blue and yellow bumper sticker in the back window of the now deceased Hyundai.The sticker showed a cell phone and read "Hang UP AND DRIVE".
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Re: Should cell phone users be singled out? [snakeweasel] by dtownfb
Oct 16, 2006 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Oct 16, 2006 11:56 am)

snakeweasel: I agree in a perfect world. But we have too many cars on the road and not near enough police. More police on the road would stop some of this behavoir. Of course it will slow traffic down as well creating more traffic jams.
 
I revert back to waht I stated earlier, we all have a responsibility to our fellow drivers. Too many people forget this and feel that being behind the wheel gives them power and control. Boy, there lives must be sad.
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unfortunate real-world example by smittynyc
Oct 16, 2006 (1:49 pm)
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On Saturday an 80-year-old woman was killed in Brooklyn as she attempted to cross Brighton Beach Avenue. She had a walk sign against a green light; a 2006 Corolla making a right-hand turn struck her.
 
Witnesses say the driver was making the turn with one hand and had a cell phone in the other.
 
The charge? "Failing to yield to a pedestrian." Not even a ticket for violating NY State's hand-held cellphone ban. Disgusting and disturbing.
 
Regardless of whether or not it can be conclusively proven the cell phone caused sufficient distraction for a driver to simply run over an old lady in a crosswalk.
 
(In case the URL doesn't work, this is from Sunday's NY Post.)
 
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10152006/news/regionalnews/bklyn_granny_mowed_down_r- egionalnews_john_doyle_and_philip_messing.htm
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Re: Should cell phone users be singled out? [dtownfb] by w9cw
Oct 16, 2006 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Oct 16, 2006 1:12 pm)

Recently a bicyclist was killed a couple of miles south of my home by a young female driver downloading ringtones while driving. This young man on the bicycle, a recent MBA grad and just home for the weekend, was doing everything right: on the bike path near the road, wearing a helmet, etc., etc., but lost his life due to this young lady's cell phone addiction.
 
I've seen too many near misses in intersections and elsewhere. Cell phone use should be banned for use while driving (period).
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Re: Should cell phone users be singled out? [dtownfb] by smittynyc
Oct 16, 2006 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Oct 16, 2006 1:12 pm)

"I revert back to waht I stated earlier, we all have a responsibility to our fellow drivers."
 
I agree with you totally on this observation.
 
The mentality of a sizable percentage of drivers is just so far out of whack, I'm not sure anything short of seizing and permanently impounding their cars could correct it.
 
It is a privilege to drive. The roads do not belong to any one of us; they belong to all of us. One's time and space on the road is not anymore important than anyone else's time and space.
 
Tailgating, weaving, super-speeding, red-light running, failure to signal, failure to yield, failure to pay attention -- all symptoms of the disease afflicting a lot of people. It's their world, we're just here to get out of their effing way.
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Re: Should cell phone users be singled out? [w9cw] by snakeweasel
Oct 16, 2006 (2:29 pm)
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Replying to: w9cw (Oct 16, 2006 1:53 pm)

Unfortunately those things happen. But they also happen with people eating, smoking, talking to passengers, changing radio stations and the like. I have seen to many near misses when cell phones were not being used, should we ban all those other activities too?
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Re: Should cell phone users be singled out? [snakeweasel] by smittynyc
Oct 16, 2006 (2:42 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Oct 16, 2006 2:29 pm)

Just because it might be uncomfortable to make a distinction between acceptable and unacceptable distractions doesn't mean we should just give up trying to do so, imo.
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Re: Should cell phone users be singled out? [smittynyc] by snakeweasel
Oct 16, 2006 (2:51 pm)
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Replying to: smittynyc (Oct 16, 2006 2:42 pm)

Its not that one sort of distraction is acceptable and another isn't. My point is that its not the cell phone, its the driver. As I said before an inconsiderate lugnut behind a wheel will be an inconsiderate lugnut regardless of what they are doing behind that wheel.
 
The fact is that someone not being distracted at all may not know whats going on around them, and someone on a cell phone may know very well whats going around them.
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Re: Should cell phone users be singled out? [snakeweasel] by wideglide
Oct 16, 2006 (3:03 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Oct 16, 2006 2:29 pm)

Unfortunately those things happen. But they also happen with people eating, smoking, talking to passengers, changing radio stations and the like. I have seen to many near misses when cell phones were not being used, should we ban all those other activities too?
 
As stated earlier, there ALREADY IS a law pertaining to those, it's called "Failure To Pay Time And Attention". We just need to put pressure on our police forces to enforce that law.
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Re: Should cell phone users be singled out? [wideglide] by snakeweasel
Oct 16, 2006 (3:10 pm)
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Replying to: wideglide (Oct 16, 2006 3:03 pm)

As I said enforce the current laws don't make new ones when you will not enforce laws to begin with.

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