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Should cell phone drivers be singled out?

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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [xrunner2] by tpe
Oct 18, 2006 (3:22 pm)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Oct 18, 2006 2:58 pm)

We have far too many driving regulations based on the fact that a small percentage of people can't exercise reasonable judgement. This is just one more example. Probably the best example is our speed limits. How can a static number represent what is a safe speed when road, weather, traffic, visibility, etc.. can vary so dramatically? The answer is that it can't. But legislators no longer trust the population to think for themselves. I find this to be a negative trend.
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [tpe] by snakeweasel
Oct 18, 2006 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: tpe (Oct 18, 2006 2:15 pm)

At least when they are talking in their vehicles I don't have to listen to their inane conversations.
 
Then you love this.
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [snakeweasel] by fintail
Oct 18, 2006 (3:46 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Oct 18, 2006 1:53 pm)

Not wearing your seatbelt will also have consequences for those who are also members of your insurance company.
 
Defend not wearing your seatbelt. How can it be justified?
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [snakeweasel] by fintail
Oct 18, 2006 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Oct 18, 2006 1:54 pm)

Issue the correction first there, Mr. Bluster
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [snakeweasel] by tpe
Oct 18, 2006 (4:02 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Oct 18, 2006 3:39 pm)

Yeah, that's pretty much the way I feel. When I'm flying somewhere its amazing to watch everyone reach for their phone as soon as the plane lands and the flight attendant gives the word. It's almost like a synchronized event. A lot of these people have their hands already poised on their phones just waiting for the okay. Kind of like a gun slinger. They typically call once at landing, call again when they reach the baggage carousel, call again when the bags arrives, call again when the shuttle bus arrives, call again when they reach the parking garage. Its at that point I lose contact, thankfully. I find myself wishing I had a gun. I'm not sure whether I'd shoot them, myself or both of us. Just as long as the misery ended. Being hit by a vehicle driven by a cell phone user would be relatively painless.
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [fintail] by snakeweasel
Oct 18, 2006 (4:36 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Oct 18, 2006 3:46 pm)

Defend not wearing your seatbelt. How can it be justified?
 
Me being able to post here does, nuff said.
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [fintail] by snakeweasel
Oct 18, 2006 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Oct 18, 2006 3:47 pm)

well life insurance is more based on things other than your health at the moment. Now of course your health may keep you from getting insurance but won't increase your premiums.
 
Also consider your premiums will not change if your health gets better or worse.
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [fintail] by gagrice
Oct 18, 2006 (5:13 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Oct 18, 2006 12:07 pm)

Still no answer about those liberties...
 
Just came in from spreading 20 yards of mulch around my trees. You guys are busy.
 
You of all people should understand the difference between laws to protect yourself and laws that protect others. You are absolutely right if I go out and get in a wreck without a seatbelt It is MY fault that I got injured. If my insurance goes up I am to blame. It is as much a violation of my rights as telling me I cannot eat myself into oblivion on candy or smoke cigarettes until I get lung cancer. I think others have already set you straight on the subject but I saw several references to me avoiding the issue.
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Re: Why, pray tell, can't ... [fintail] by gagrice
Oct 18, 2006 (6:16 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Oct 18, 2006 3:46 pm)

Defend not wearing your seatbelt. How can it be justified?
 
It would be difficult to defend not wearing a seat belt. Easy to defend my right to not wear one if I so please. I think the helmet laws have gotten tossed out in a couple states already. How many more laws would you like to see. Lots of people get hurt skiing and snowboarding each year. I think there needs to be a law against those dangerous sports.
 
As you well know there is a very vocal group in this country that want to ban boxing. Next football.
 
Helmet laws by state.
 
http://usff.com/hldl/frames/50state.html
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NHTSA says all cell phone calls are a distraction. by gagrice
Oct 18, 2006 (6:19 pm)
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Governments may be acting under false assumptions of safety when making laws that require drivers to use headsets or other hands-free devices when talking on cell phones, as studies are indicating that hands-free devices may actually make distraction an even greater issue for drivers on the phone. Drivers using hands-free devices drive even faster than other cell-phone using drivers while their braking response time remains the same as other cell phone users – up to 45 percent slower than for drivers who aren’t talking on the phone.
 
For the NHTSA, all of this research means that headsets and other hands-free devices are just as unsafe as any other type of cell phone. Jeffrey Runge, NHTSA’s administrator, finds that problematic. "The thing that disturbs me is that we have states and local municipalities making rules that basically give hands-free phones a free pass as being safe. That’s not good policy," Runge told the Wall Street Journal.

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