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Re: Rear turn light (05) [rvoth] by e2helper
Feb 19, 2007 (3:57 pm)
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Replying to: rvoth (Feb 18, 2007 8:51 pm)

There is not a separate fuse for turn signals. The BCM drives all of the turn signals directly with solid-state drivers (1 for each corner).
 
When you try to operate the left turn signal does the indicator in the instrument cluster flash fast (indicating the BCM is sensing a problem)?
 
Just to make sure it isn't a ground problem does your back-up lamp work on that side? The marker lamps might be working because they are lower power filament and getting grounded through the other lamp filaments.
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Re: Rear turn light (05) [e2helper] by rvoth
Feb 19, 2007 (6:42 pm)
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Replying to: e2helper (Feb 19, 2007 3:57 pm)

Yes the left turn indicator flashes faster than when the right signal is used.
 
 The back-up lamp works on both sidesand I noticed that the blub was grey looking on the glass but the element wasn't broken.
 
 What is the BCM? What does it control ? Thanks Russ
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Re: Rear turn light (05) [rvoth] by e2helper
Feb 19, 2007 (8:00 pm)
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Replying to: rvoth (Feb 19, 2007 6:42 pm)

Body Control Module - It controls a lot of stuff - to many things to mention here.
 
I should have suggested putting your foot on the brake when you turn on back-up lamps. If left rear back-up lamp still illuminates then I guess the potential problem with your left rear lamp is either the wiring from BCM to the lamp or with BCM itself.
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Re: Rear turn light (05) [e2helper] by rvoth
Feb 20, 2007 (5:56 pm)
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Replying to: e2helper (Feb 19, 2007 8:00 pm)

I just completed your test for the backup lights,the left rear lamp back-up lamp still illuminates ! My guess is wiring harness.
 
 Where is this Body Control Module located, in the trunk near the fuse box ? Thanks Russ
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Re: Rear turn light (05) [rvoth] by e2helper
Feb 20, 2007 (6:19 pm)
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Replying to: rvoth (Feb 20, 2007 5:56 pm)

OK - I just wanted to rule out everything. I agree likely wiring. Do you have ability to do any type of resistance check of a wire to ground? The BCM is located underneath "center stack" on front passenger side. You will see a panel that likely has a fuse symbol molded on it. The circuit from BCM to the rear lamp is actually 2 wires. One goes from the BCM to the "rear bussed electrical center (BEC)" in trunk. The second wire goes from Rear BEC to the actual rear lamp connector. the weird thing is that the connector at BCM and rear BEC are bolt-on so unless someone has been taking your vehicle apart for some reason I wouldn't think the connectors themselves are loose. I guess always possible a wire got chafed to ground or something.
 
So for left rear stop lamp the wire color is Yellow. At BCM (red connector) it is in cavity A9 going to Rear BEC White Connector cavity B2 and then coming out of Rear BEC (red connector again) cavity C11 going to rear lamp cavity B. In addition to acting as a fuse/relay center the rear BEC is used as a junction point for multiple wiring harnesses to come together (in this case the rear lamp, body and headliner) so the rear left turn signal circuit just passes thru the cavities mentioned to get from main body harness to rear lamp harness.
 
I am just laying out the access points. Hopefully you understand how you would actually test for continuity to ground. I don't want to have to try to explain that
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Re: Rear turn light (05) [e2helper] by rvoth
Feb 21, 2007 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: e2helper (Feb 20, 2007 6:19 pm)

Thanks for the detailed layout of how the BMC is connected to the rear BEC and the detailed wiring codes/wires to look for . This will help.
  
 The only people that could have moved the wires is the body shop when they replace the left truck hinge, maybe they disturbed the wiring harness!
 
 Out comes the voltage/ohm meter to test the for continuity.
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Re: Rear turn light (05) [rvoth] by e2helper
Feb 22, 2007 (3:51 am)
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Replying to: rvoth (Feb 21, 2007 8:05 pm)

Right - I was hoping you had a meter. You can probably backprobe terminals without even taking stuff apart because everthing unsealed except for lamp assembly. You will only have to use a flashlight to see how cavity numbers are assigned although the wire color should help (assuming I got it right). If you have an open circuit that should be easy to find. However if you actually have a circuit chafed to ground it might be a bit difficult to distinguish between the cold bulb filament and a short to ground because both would likely read under 1 ohm. It is just a matter of how close to zero you see. Bulb draws 2.1 Amps when hot or about 6 ohms but when cold probably 1/7 that or 0.9 ohm. So if you read under 0.5 ohm I would suspect a short to ground.
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Re: Rear turn light (05) [e2helper] by rvoth
Feb 27, 2007 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: e2helper (Feb 22, 2007 3:51 am)

Didn't get chance to test the circuit for short or amps drawn but the original bulb had the turn element was burnt out, not the marker light on the bulb. I guess the replacement bulb 3075 wasn't engaged properly into the socket . Do you have to push hard to engage the bulb into the socket because when i took out the old bulb it wasn't hard to remove so i didn't push hard to engaging it. Only time will tell if any other problem arises on this signal.
 
It's hard to believe it was just the wagner bulb from the factory! Thanks for all the info regarding this issue, it will come in use soon. Russ
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2005 Malibu Classic tail lights. HELP!! :( by dugfresh
Mar 03, 2007 (10:02 am)
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2005 Classic tail lights. HELP!! :( by dugfresh
Feb 28, 2007 (2:11 pm)
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Sorry if anyone else has a thread on this yet. I only found other models that don't relate.
 
I have some major rear light issues on my 05 Malibu Classic. Right after a big snow fall, poof , my directionals went. Next a week later my hazzards are gone. I checked all bulbs and tried replacing the hazzard switch. No luck. I do have running and brake lights but no signals.
 
I pulled the tail light bucket out and noticed something weird. Looks almost like a built in fuse. Has anyone seen these or had trouble with them? I know the moisture in the assembly is common. And I do have moisture there. I'm tempted to buy a new socket and see what happens. But if I can get advice first, I'd really appreciate it!
 
Thanks
Dug

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