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Pontiac Grand Am Security Passlock Problems

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Re: Had a talk with pontiac [ccsmileybear] by lovemygrandam
Oct 17, 2009 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: ccsmileybear (Oct 16, 2009 11:15 pm)

ccsmileybear,
I do not believe you need a new key. This thread deals with Pontiac security systems which have the resistor and switches as part of the ignition switch. If your vehicle is between 1999 and 2003, it's likely you don't have a system which relies on a circuit in the ignition key. What year and model is your pontiac?
 
1. When the car won't start, is the "SECURITY" light flashing?
2. After you do the 10-12 minute relearn process, does the "SECURITY" light go out?
3. Has your "SECURITY" light ever come on solid and stayed on after the vehicle has been running for at least a minute or so?
  
You can probably find the solution to your problem in one of the following messages in this thread:
#21-23
#50 (be sure to click on the links and view the pictures)
#209
#213
#394 (follow the link marked "Grand Am Passlock Security Fix")
#504
#506
#560
  
There are descriptions of many people's problems in many of the other posts, but if you read just these few messages, and read them thoroughly, you will have the answer to all but 0.01% of the Passlock problems.
  
And then, there is my usual suggestion:
Get a genuine Service Manual for your particular vehicle
My suggestion is to get an Online Manual from the following source:
ALLDATADIY
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Re: Had a talk with pontiac [lovemygrandam] by ccsmileybear
Oct 17, 2009 (5:16 pm)
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Replying to: lovemygrandam (Oct 17, 2009 9:12 am)

Hi, my car is a pontiac grand am, i went and got the manual out of my car, and read in there about the passlock, also after doing research it does show where you need to get a new key, which makes sense. i am going to try that first and hopefully that works. if not i am going to trade off my car, after reading this post what a nightmare and i do not want to have to worry if my car will start every time i shut it off!!
 
http://www.auto-facts.org/automotive-passkey-systems.html
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Re: Had a talk with pontiac [ccsmileybear] by ccsmileybear
Oct 17, 2009 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: ccsmileybear (Oct 17, 2009 5:16 pm)

ooops 2002 pont gran am
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Re: Had a talk with pontiac [ccsmileybear] by lovemygrandam
Oct 18, 2009 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: ccsmileybear (Oct 17, 2009 5:40 pm)

2002 Pontiac Grand Am does not use a special key. I did the modification as shown in this link:
2002 Grand Am Passlock Mod
 
I have never had the passlock problem since.
 
DO NOT PAY ANYONE MORE THAN $2.50 FOR A NEW KEY. In my 2002 Grand Am SE, I use cheap keys made at the Home Depot key counter. Many GM cars need the special keys, but not this model. Another way to check if you need one of the electronic keys is to look at the side of your ignition key, near the bottom of the black coating, and see if there is a "+" stamped on the key. If not, then your key is good as long as it will allow you to turn the ignition switch.
 
Dick B.
www.bergerweb.net
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Re: Had a talk with pontiac [lovemygrandam] by ja33
Oct 18, 2009 (6:40 pm)
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Replying to: lovemygrandam (Oct 18, 2009 12:49 pm)

If you woud take a look at my message #695, i have a cheaper solution. Just put a drop of three in one oil on your present ignition key. Try it but do to take a look at my message. It is now over 11 months since I stopped having the passlok security starting problem. Alero owners had the same problem, tried the oil and problem resolved.... Too easy...Ja
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Re: Had a talk with pontiac [lovemygrandam] by mizzoustu702
Oct 20, 2009 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: lovemygrandam (Oct 18, 2009 12:49 pm)

Hello Mr. Berger,
 
I have a 2000 Oldsmobile Alero that's been having the passlock problem (will not start, must wait ten minutes, etc.). I came across your website with the fix (bergerweb) so I thought I'd try it. I'm in the middle of fixing it right now, but before I cut any wires or anything, I found what might be a difference in my car and your grandam and wanted some advice in how to move forward.
 
On your site, the middle connector for the body control module goes from A1-A12, left to right. However, mine is the opposite (A12-A1 left to right), and also the black wire comes out of the A6 port and the yellow wire out of the B6 port, if that makes sense. I know the wires shouldn't matter, but I just wanted your advice before I cut the wrong wire...my understanding is that I should strip "my" yellow wire (B6) and cut the black wire (A6) and solder the resistor as instructed, but I just wanted to check. Thanks for your time!
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Re: Had a talk with pontiac [mizzoustu702] by lovemygrandam
Oct 21, 2009 (2:40 am)
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Replying to: mizzoustu702 (Oct 20, 2009 12:27 pm)

Cut the yellow wire, and solder a resistor from B6 to the black wire on A6.
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Re: Had a talk with pontiac [lovemygrandam] by jhwee
Oct 21, 2009 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: lovemygrandam (Oct 17, 2009 9:12 am)

Thanks for your message, it is very helpful.
I just had this problem, and solved it yesterday
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Re: Had a talk with pontiac [mizzoustu702] by ja33
Oct 22, 2009 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: mizzoustu702 (Oct 20, 2009 12:27 pm)

Before you start cutting wires and all that "mechanical neat stuff", put a drop of three in one oil on your ignition key and clean it. Then see my message #695 for details for an easy solution to the passlok security starting problem. It may sound too simple but it has worked for me for 11 months without failure.
 
I will probably stop posting this suggestion on this Pontiac thread, since everyone here wants to do the mechanical thing. Alero owners had the same starting problem and have used this solution. These two cars are essentially the same and have the same problems. Save yourself some time and money. If you try it, please reply.....Ja
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NEED HELP PLEASE by drhrejsa
Oct 26, 2009 (2:00 pm)
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Ever sense I got my car, Ive had a problem with it wanting 2 start when the weather is cold, it tries 2 start, but wont "catch" & turn over. Ive had a new fuel pump put in 2 yrs ago & it works fine. The problem has gotten worse over the yrs & now I'll run my battery dead trying 2 start it. Once the car has started it runs gr8, no problems 2 all. The only time my sec light comes on is when im driving steady for about 4-5 hrs to florida. I live in NC. even b4 the new fuel pump Ive had this problem. It only happens when the weather gets below 45. It takes many tries over a 30-45 min time frame almost like the engine has 2 warm up by trying 2 start b4 it will start. b4 it got this bad I could put it in neutral 4 it 2 start, now that wont wrk anymore. if any1 can help with this mystery I would b gr8ful. the dealership cant find anything wrong with it. Im a loss as 2 what 2 do. Im a single mom & cant afford much more $. I have friends that will help fix it, but they havent had this problem b4 & r a loss 2.

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