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Re: The Definitive Fix for Security Passlock Problem [lovemygrandam] by lsuzi
Oct 13, 2009 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: lovemygrandam (Aug 22, 2008 3:49 pm)

Thank you! Fix took me about 45 minutes...dealer wanted $600 to fix. The resistor cost 99 cents. Senior citizen on fixed income. Thanks again for your help, Mr. Berger!
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04 grand am gt by crazyeyez462
Oct 14, 2009 (11:15 am)
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ok so i have a 04 ga gt v6 and since the day i got it the drivers window didn't work. (bought new ) and now the lights ( headlights and tail lights flicker ) mostly when it is off but does sometimes do it when running not as much took it to the dealership they claimed they fixed it one week later the same thing started happening i found that if i take out the head lamps fuse and one next to it it will stop but i have to do that every time i go somewhere so i can get home is that a pass lock issue??? bcm??? i think the dealership put a new bcm in ill check on that and idk what to do i cant afford a new car and i dont wanna take my fuses out 4 tiems a day its just a hassle thanks a bunch u can email me also if u know the problem the faster fixed the better brazyeyez462aim.com
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Re: 04 grand am gt [crazyeyez462] by lovemygrandam
Oct 14, 2009 (6:31 pm)
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Replying to: crazyeyez462 (Oct 14, 2009 11:15 am)

If you took it to the dealer while it was in warranty, and they didn't fix it, bring it back to the dealer, along with the original work order. They will have to fix it under warranty.
It sounds like you have enough knowledge about automobile wiring to have figured out that taking the headlamp fuse out will keep your battery from running down. I would think you can troubleshoot this problem yourself, and find the short in your system if you purchase a shop manual. At any rate, your inquiry does not belong in this thread. Try searching for something to do with headlights not turning off. Oh, and by the way, Try to use correct grammar. It really helps us to understand your problem if we can decipher what you are trying to say.
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Re: 04 grand am gt [lovemygrandam] by crazyeyez462
Oct 15, 2009 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: lovemygrandam (Oct 14, 2009 6:31 pm)

I did check all of these wires and didnt find anything (used volt meter) and my ?? is could the pass lock issue be the cause of flickering headlamps??? and i checked the dealer invoice and they say they reset my bcm and charged me a good bit to do so should i cut the passlock wire and would that help??and by the way i didnt come to this forum b/c i thought it was exactly my problem i came because i thought it might help me solve my problem or at least point me in the right direction thanks for the help guys.
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Re: 04 grand am gt [crazyeyez462] by lovemygrandam
Oct 15, 2009 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: crazyeyez462 (Oct 15, 2009 7:49 am)

I wouldn't think the passlock issue would cause any headlight problems. Yes, both are controlled by the BCM, but they are entirely separate parts of the programming. The more likely suspect would be anything related to Daytime Running Lights. There is a relay associated with Daytime Running Lights which may be the problem, but without a service manual, it would be hard to trace down the cause.
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Re: Had a talk with pontiac [pontiac4] by ccsmileybear
Oct 16, 2009 (11:15 pm)
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Replying to: pontiac4 (Aug 13, 2007 4:02 pm)

I have had my car at 3 different shops and towed 5 times within a month. My car will not start, wants to turn over, everytime i had my car towed to a shop it would start right up!!! they never could find a thing wrong with it, till i had it towed again yesterday morning to pep boys, which the time before put a new ignation in and switch and charged me over 400.00 for nothing, as it did not fix my problem. pepboys said this time my car would not start, and they could find the problem now, they told me it was the security system that i had to get it towed to the dealership, when the car go to the dealership they were able to start it!!! the man spent over 4 hours on my car and could not find a thing wrong with my car!!! in which he did not charge me a dime. So what i have heard now is i need to go get a new key made at the dealership for about 40.00, here is a web page that had info on it about this pass key, i am hoping this works as i have a daughter i take to work by 7am then me and my 2 yr old grandson waste 20 min in store before i take him to school, between my paying for my towing, taxi cabs service etc this is so killing me!!! hope this helps and i am going to try the key and keep my fingers crossed!! http://www.auto-facts.org/automotive-passkey-systems.html
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Re: Had a talk with pontiac [ccsmileybear] by lovemygrandam
Oct 17, 2009 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: ccsmileybear (Oct 16, 2009 11:15 pm)

ccsmileybear,
I do not believe you need a new key. This thread deals with Pontiac security systems which have the resistor and switches as part of the ignition switch. If your vehicle is between 1999 and 2003, it's likely you don't have a system which relies on a circuit in the ignition key. What year and model is your pontiac?
 
1. When the car won't start, is the "SECURITY" light flashing?
2. After you do the 10-12 minute relearn process, does the "SECURITY" light go out?
3. Has your "SECURITY" light ever come on solid and stayed on after the vehicle has been running for at least a minute or so?
  
You can probably find the solution to your problem in one of the following messages in this thread:
#21-23
#50 (be sure to click on the links and view the pictures)
#209
#213
#394 (follow the link marked "Grand Am Passlock Security Fix")
#504
#506
#560
  
There are descriptions of many people's problems in many of the other posts, but if you read just these few messages, and read them thoroughly, you will have the answer to all but 0.01% of the Passlock problems.
  
And then, there is my usual suggestion:
Get a genuine Service Manual for your particular vehicle
My suggestion is to get an Online Manual from the following source:
ALLDATADIY
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Re: Had a talk with pontiac [lovemygrandam] by ccsmileybear
Oct 17, 2009 (5:16 pm)
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Replying to: lovemygrandam (Oct 17, 2009 9:12 am)

Hi, my car is a pontiac grand am, i went and got the manual out of my car, and read in there about the passlock, also after doing research it does show where you need to get a new key, which makes sense. i am going to try that first and hopefully that works. if not i am going to trade off my car, after reading this post what a nightmare and i do not want to have to worry if my car will start every time i shut it off!!
 
http://www.auto-facts.org/automotive-passkey-systems.html
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Re: Had a talk with pontiac [ccsmileybear] by ccsmileybear
Oct 17, 2009 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: ccsmileybear (Oct 17, 2009 5:16 pm)

ooops 2002 pont gran am
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Re: Had a talk with pontiac [ccsmileybear] by lovemygrandam
Oct 18, 2009 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: ccsmileybear (Oct 17, 2009 5:40 pm)

2002 Pontiac Grand Am does not use a special key. I did the modification as shown in this link:
2002 Grand Am Passlock Mod
 
I have never had the passlock problem since.
 
DO NOT PAY ANYONE MORE THAN $2.50 FOR A NEW KEY. In my 2002 Grand Am SE, I use cheap keys made at the Home Depot key counter. Many GM cars need the special keys, but not this model. Another way to check if you need one of the electronic keys is to look at the side of your ignition key, near the bottom of the black coating, and see if there is a "+" stamped on the key. If not, then your key is good as long as it will allow you to turn the ignition switch.
 
Dick B.
www.bergerweb.net

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