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Sedans Pontiac Grand Am Pontiac Grand Am Security Passlock Problems
738 messages, Last post on Dec 07, 2009 at 2:52 PM
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My daughters 02 grand am is having issues. The history is that we bought it wrecked a couple years ago. Just a rear end and front corner wreck. pounded out, screwed the rear bumper cover back on and good to go is what it looked like the previous owners did. Has always run strong until now. We are in AZ where its about 115 right now during the days. She ran it out of gas on Friday on the freeway. I took her gas and no problems Friday, Saturday or Sunday. On Monday her hubby used it to drive to work because his water pump went out on Sunday. Tuesday or Wednesday he drove to work and then she dropped him off and drove home. When she got home she noticed that he had taken his keys out of the ignition and left it running. After all don't you know its cool for a car to run and drive when you can take the key out? STUPID! So she put her key in to turn the car off. She drove to work and it started fine. She went to leave work and it would just rrrrrrrrrrr.... and not get gas, so she did like I showed her when I rescued her on the freeway and turned the key on and off a couple times to give it gas and then it started fine. All was well until this morning when it just won't get gas at all. So hubby of course keeps turning it over until he wears the battery down some. STUPID! So I tried to jump it and it still isn't getting gas. We read up and thought maybe its the security system. But the security light isn't flashing. We have of course tried the 10 minute key thing and it doesn't change anything. With the key "on" what we see is the oil light, security, check engine, and wiper fluid lights are on solid. The wiper fluid thing has a leak so it always stays on. Her oil is low but she only has a few dollars and doesn't want to waste money on oil if its not going to start. When we turn it over to try and start it, the only light that stays on is the check engine light. Any clues?
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Replying to: scrappyoodle (Jul 16, 2009 7:35 pm)
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Replying to: scrappyoodle (Jul 16, 2009 9:26 pm) Let us know what you find. |
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| Could it be the fuel filter ?. You said your daughter ran it out of gas . When the fuel gets that low in the tank , particles could get pumped through the system . | |
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Replying to: markjr54 (Jul 16, 2009 10:55 am) ( IT STARTED ) glory be. the security light is still on and now the air bag light is too. wonder if they are related or just coincidence. You can find out if the fuel pump relay has anything to do with the air bag light if you have a Service manual for your vehicle |
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Replying to: scrappyoodle (Jul 16, 2009 9:26 pm) |
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Replying to: markjr54 (Jul 16, 2009 10:55 am)  #$%! Replaced the fuel filter and messed with this car for some time before I found this blog. I removed #18 relay and jumped 30 with 87 wataboom it started. I will be replacing the relay shortly. I will let you know. Thank you. Dan
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Replying to: dansww (Jul 31, 2009 7:12 pm) |
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Replying to: dansww (Jul 31, 2009 7:12 pm) just haven't had it happen to them. with the jumper in, is your air bag light on along with the sec. light on ? |
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Hello, I have a 1997 Pontiac Grand Am SE 3.1L AT. For quite awhile now I have been having intermittent passlock probs that just wont go away. I have noticed that in the summer months (100+) it sometimes won't start. It cranks and starts for about a sercond or two then quits. Yep, just like about 99% of these posts. My "Theft System" light stays illuminated when in the ON position. When it does start for that 1-2 secs the Theft System light goes off. Anyway, one thing different on my diagnostic that I have yet to hear (I have not read all 600+ posts) is that when it does start, sometime my Tach and Speedo gauges go whacko until I shut it off and restart it. Then they perform like normal. One mechanic told me that was an indication of a defective BCM. Problem, I cannot find my BCM anywhere. Does anyone know where the BCM on a 1997 Grand Am is located? or if it even exists? One mechanic told me it doesn't have a BCM. I found the PCM but, not the BCM. I have not tried the toggle switch or electrode thing yet. What I did do was remove the plastic connector for the 3 passlock wires and hard wired them (well, currently with just some wire nuts but, they'll meet with solder soon) with the yellow, black and white wires they were originally connected to. At the time I was troubleshooting corrosion of those tin connectors and my high humidity area. I am just not 100% sure if it's the Passlock or the BCM at this point. As soon as I turn the key to ON, the Theft System light flashed for about 5 times then goes solid. The tach and speedo gauges are all that is telling me it's the BCM. I live in a high heat (100+) and high humidity (73%) area in Southern CA. Thanks for any help! -Tim
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