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Pontiac Grand Am Security Passlock Problems

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Security Light by tasmanian78
Jul 14, 2009 (8:20 am)
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I have a 2003 Pontiac Grand am. So 4 days ago my security light came on just out of nowhere. I turned the car off and turned it back on and the light went off. Well yesterday I was driving down the road and out of no where my car shut off and i had a time trying to get the steering wheel to turn into a driveway to park it. Would the passlock problem cause the car to shut down like this as well?
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Re: Security Light [tasmanian78] by burdawg
Jul 14, 2009 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: tasmanian78 (Jul 14, 2009 8:20 am)

No. The passlock system isn't designed to shut down a running car, just to keep one from starting if it's tripped. If the passlock detects a problem while it's running, the security light in the cluster comes on solid.
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Re: Security Light [burdawg] by tasmanian78
Jul 14, 2009 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: burdawg (Jul 14, 2009 11:47 am)

So what would cause a running car to just shut down like that? Fuel Pump?
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Yellow wire by tasmanian78
Jul 14, 2009 (12:48 pm)
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So what happens If i cannot get the car to start and I cut the yello wire to see if it will work? Will I mess something up?
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Re: Yellow wire [tasmanian78] by tripower1
Jul 14, 2009 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: tasmanian78 (Jul 14, 2009 12:48 pm)

in order to cut the yellow wire the car must be running first, if you cut the wire before you start the car the security system indicates a breach and wont let the car start...
Look at the fuel pump, cam or crank senser first.
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Re: Yellow wire [tasmanian78] by lovemygrandam
Jul 14, 2009 (7:07 pm)
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Replying to: tasmanian78 (Jul 14, 2009 12:48 pm)

TriPower is correct. If your vehicle stalled while driving, the fault is not your security system, and you should not mess with the yellow wire.
One of four things is likely wrong with your car
1. no fuel is being delivered to the cylinders
2. no spark is being delivered to the cylinders
3. no compression.
4. the starter motor is not running
 
If your starter motor is not running, you may have a bad starter motor, or bad electrical connection.
 
If you don't have compression, your engine will turn over faster than usual when you try to crank it.
 
If something else is wrong, I suggest you take it to a trusted mechanic. If you are smart, you will choose someone other than a Pontiac dealer. Their prices are inflated, and they aren't as friendly as the Chevy dealers.
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Re: Security Light [tasmanian78] by burdawg
Jul 15, 2009 (6:19 am)
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Replying to: tasmanian78 (Jul 14, 2009 12:16 pm)

Could be lots of things. If it's intermittent, it's quite often very hard to find the root cause.
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what a pita by markjr54
Jul 16, 2009 (10:55 am)
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after months of trying to get this car started , i found a way. after repairing the lock cylinder, replacing the switch and cylinder, replacing the bcm , having the pcm reprogrammed, replacing the fp relay , and other things that i can't remember because there were so many,i still had no voltage at the fp.so i put every thing back to original condition. at wits end i thought i'd try one more thing before scrapping it. i took the fp relay out and with a paper clip i jumpered # 30 to # 87 .
( IT STARTED ) glory be. the security light is still on and now the air bag light is too. wonder if they are related or just coincidence.
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Grand Am just will not start, getting no gas by scrappyoodle
Jul 16, 2009 (7:35 pm)
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My daughters 02 grand am is having issues. The history is that we bought it wrecked a couple years ago. Just a rear end and front corner wreck. pounded out, screwed the rear bumper cover back on and good to go is what it looked like the previous owners did. Has always run strong until now. We are in AZ where its about 115 right now during the days. She ran it out of gas on Friday on the freeway. I took her gas and no problems Friday, Saturday or Sunday. On Monday her hubby used it to drive to work because his water pump went out on Sunday. Tuesday or Wednesday he drove to work and then she dropped him off and drove home. When she got home she noticed that he had taken his keys out of the ignition and left it running. After all don't you know its cool for a car to run and drive when you can take the key out? STUPID! So she put her key in to turn the car off. She drove to work and it started fine. She went to leave work and it would just rrrrrrrrrrr.... and not get gas, so she did like I showed her when I rescued her on the freeway and turned the key on and off a couple times to give it gas and then it started fine. All was well until this morning when it just won't get gas at all. So hubby of course keeps turning it over until he wears the battery down some. STUPID! So I tried to jump it and it still isn't getting gas. We read up and thought maybe its the security system. But the security light isn't flashing. We have of course tried the 10 minute key thing and it doesn't change anything. With the key "on" what we see is the oil light, security, check engine, and wiper fluid lights are on solid. The wiper fluid thing has a leak so it always stays on. Her oil is low but she only has a few dollars and doesn't want to waste money on oil if its not going to start. When we turn it over to try and start it, the only light that stays on is the check engine light. Any clues?
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Re: Grand Am just will not start, getting no gas [scrappyoodle] by scrappyoodle
Jul 16, 2009 (9:26 pm)
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Replying to: scrappyoodle (Jul 16, 2009 7:35 pm)

It's throwing no codes and is making a gurgling noise at the fuel pump. not the ggggggrrrrr that my cadillac pump makes and is pretty much the same pump. sounds like someone making milk bubbles with a straw? then of course the stupid battery is completely dead now that I turned the key on and off like 5 times! you know we really thought this was a decent car but not so sure now. ALSO when we were turning the key on and off, the stupid dinger got possessed and wouldn't stop dinging even with the key on for awhile and the door closed.

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