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#653 of 1283 2001 Grand Am Coupe - Passlock Security System Malfunction
Jul 03, 2009 (6:35 pm)
Hello to all...
My Screen Name says it all, I too am a victim of GM's Passlock Security System Malfunction.
I own 2 Pontiac Grand Ams.
The 1st(2000 4cly.4 dr. SE) I purchase as a gift for my daughter used as her 1st car. This car has been very good with no major problems other then maintanence issues related to a car with 80,000 miles. We have owned it over a year..
The 2nd(2001 4cly.2 dr. SE) is the CAR FROM HELL, also a gift purchased for my son about 6 months ago with only 42,000 miles on it. I too, like a previous poster thought i got the deal of the century. I will save you my long drawn out story similar to most of you but just so you know i have replaced every sensor related to the ingnition plus the cam, crank & fuel pump. Still exprienced the Passlock Gremlin my general mechanic is really just sick of the car as well & is frankly so frustrated that when the last incident happened he took it to the local general motors dealership himself & believe it or not paid for the repair because he is tired of charging me for the repairs only to have it towed back within 4 to 6 weeks later. Unfortunately he also told me he no longer knows what to try & I should probably get rid of it.
So here's where I'm at... Lastnite it happened again & the reset sequence did not work, you know turn to on for 10 or 15 mins. back to off then start... So we called a tow again, at least the 6th or 7th time in the 6 months we've owned it... Well you should know the tow truck driver was totally aware of the problem, he pulled the main ignition fuse under the hood(green 30amp bottom lft corner of fuse box) & it that reset everything & started right up.. Now feeling I have no other alternative I cut the yellow Passlock Data Wire, while the car was running & put the toggle switch in.. The car seems ok & the Security idiot light stays on continuously.. I think my son will be able to deal with that as long as it bypasses the Passlock Glitch.. I just don't know if we will ever really trust the car, it has proven to be so unreliable. He honestly is afraid to drive the dam thing & wind up getting stranded again.
How General Motors can put a product out like this and still stay in business is unbelievable!! Oh that's right, they're ready to go belly-up.. Going Bankrupt & washing their hands of the thing.. How convenient!! & they wonder why the Jap Companies are crushing them...
I'll post in the future if the car hits the crapper again but so far so good.. Thanks to all who have tried to help & if a classaction is really possible count me in..
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#654 of 1283 Re: HELP!!!!! [lovemygrandam]
Jul 07, 2009 (2:32 pm)
I was referring to my daughters Olds Alero, it's been so long ago since I installed the toggle switch and cut the yellow wire that I don't remember if the security lite was flashing or solid but the car did nothing, no fuel pump, starter or anything until after the ten minute wait. It's been almost two years since I did the fix with out one problem yet.
#655 of 1283 Re: HELP!!!!! [tripower1]
Jul 08, 2009 (8:35 am)
Is the Olds Alero an Automatic, or Stick shift? I think that information would be useful to the blog.
#656 of 1283 Re: HELP!!!!! [lovemygrandam]
Jul 09, 2009 (11:58 am)
OK all, as per lovemygrandam suggested here's the info. My daughter Jamie's 03 Olds Alero automatic trans was doing the same thing as most here. The security light would be "flashing" when she tried to start her car nothing happened, the engine wouldn't turn over and I don't know if the fuel pump came on or not. Sometimes when she was driving down the road the security light would come on "solid" indicating she had a problem and most of the time it would lock her out the next time she tried to start the car. the 10 min reset always worked. She would put the key in, turn it to the on position and the security light would be flashing and after 10 min it would go out and she would start the car.
she didn't turn it to the off position first then try and start it, that would be like starting all over. I found this site and did some reading and followed the instructions posted here, cutting the yellow wire, installing the toggle switch and it's been almost two years trouble free.
Any questions email me.
PS I should have told you it's a V6 3.4
#657 of 1283 Re: HELP!!!!! [dbstls]
Jul 09, 2009 (12:08 pm)
That faint click should be the relay, I'ed check to see if you get power to the starter when you here that click. I think you have a bad connection on the battery or from the batter to the fues box or a bad Solinoid. You said the battery was new but you loss everything after you try and start the car, then it all come's back when you shut it off and turn it back on, Confussing. it sounds like a power problem ether at the fues/relay pannel or starter solinoid or starter it's self
Jul 14, 2009 (8:20 am)
I have a 2003 Pontiac Grand am. So 4 days ago my security light came on just out of nowhere. I turned the car off and turned it back on and the light went off. Well yesterday I was driving down the road and out of no where my car shut off and i had a time trying to get the steering wheel to turn into a driveway to park it. Would the passlock problem cause the car to shut down like this as well?
#659 of 1283 Re: Security Light [tasmanian78]
Jul 14, 2009 (11:47 am)
No. The passlock system isn't designed to shut down a running car, just to keep one from starting if it's tripped. If the passlock detects a problem while it's running, the security light in the cluster comes on solid.
#660 of 1283 Re: Security Light [burdawg]
Jul 14, 2009 (12:16 pm)
So what would cause a running car to just shut down like that? Fuel Pump?
Jul 14, 2009 (12:48 pm)
So what happens If i cannot get the car to start and I cut the yello wire to see if it will work? Will I mess something up?
#662 of 1283 Re: Yellow wire [tasmanian78]
Jul 14, 2009 (4:15 pm)
in order to cut the yellow wire the car must be running first, if you cut the wire before you start the car the security system indicates a breach and wont let the car start...
Look at the fuel pump, cam or crank senser first.