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Re: Wits end with transmission and Chrysler [ohlord] by rhollis
Jan 08, 2009 (5:26 am)
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Replying to: ohlord (Jan 08, 2009 5:18 am)

My 2007 had slightly over 5000 miles on it when Chrysler bought it back after a year of my trying to get them to do something about it. If they had offered me another vehicle, I would have taken it. All they offered, however, was that there was nothing wrong with the car and that I, apparently, had no idea what I was talking about even though I have been in the auto repair business for forty years.
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Re: Wits end with transmission and Chrysler [ohlord] by elmo3
Jan 08, 2009 (5:39 am)
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Replying to: ohlord (Jan 08, 2009 5:18 am)

All,
 
It is sad to continue to see everyone experiencing the same problem. My problems mirror yours to the letter without the issues of rust. For better or worse, I have settled my lawsuit that was pending in District Court and unfortunately not pleased with the whole outcome but it is what it is. I will never purchase another Chrysler vehicle. I am currently 18 months into a 36 month lease and want out of this vehicle. Does anyone in this forum have experience trading in a vehicle with this much time left on a lease? If so, I would appreciate your feedback.
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Re: Design problem [farout] by bulldozer
Jan 08, 2009 (7:05 am)
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Replying to: farout (Jan 03, 2009 2:41 pm)

Farout-
Our T&C actually has the 3.3 L V-6. I felt it might be too small of an engine for such a big vehicle, but after driving it, it really does OK. Gas mileage is really good so far, and it is capable of all the around town stuff we do. The real challenge will be when we take it to the mountains this August. It does have an auto-stick design for the higher gears, so we will see. We only go up there once a year, so I don't think it is going to be a huge issue. A LOT more room for luggage and stuff, though-especially with the stow and go compartments!
Now, about the other PAC - I experience no shudder at all with it. But it does a few other wierd things I'm starting to notice. When taking off from a start, it slams into gear when you press the gas, and you can hear it "bump" under the hood. When coming to a stop, it slams when it downshifts. Don't brake too hard, or it will still be shifting after you have already come to a complete stop! I know better than to take it in to the dealership - it will all just be normal, or they won't be able to duplicate the condition. I believe completely that there is a design flaw in the 2007 and up model year Pacificas with the 4.0 L motors and 6 speed transmissions. The powertrain is just not mated properly to the chassis, both physically and electronically. I will wait patiently until I can trade the car in and not lose a ton while doing it rather than go through the headaches and nightmares of multiple service department visits again. Seemed like every time they touched it, something else went wrong! Oh, and I STILL have yet to recieve a call back from any higher ups at Chrysler from my first PAC issues. I called them 7 or 8 times, but the folks at Chrysler Customer No-Care were just way to kind and could do absolutely nothing. I don't plan on going that route with this PAC!
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Re: Design problem [bulldozer] by farout
Jan 08, 2009 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: bulldozer (Jan 08, 2009 7:05 am)

bulldozer: I know for sure what is causing your "bump" Your PAC's motor mounts are shot, kaput, gone, broken, damaged, and need replacing. This very thing has happened to me as well in the last three weeks. I took it to my selling dealer on Dec, 30, and I said I thought it was the transmission. They took it for a ride. "can not duplicate the problem" case closed! I took it to a dealer we have used before about 75 miles from us. They test drove it, and they said motor mounts were totally gone. They are installing the new mounts aon Jan. 13th. The Service manager said the bad mounts are very common and are factory mounts generally gone by 20,000 miles. I am pleased I did not take the word of the selling dealer.
 
The dealer we bought our PAC from also has a GM dealership. In December the owner moved the Chrysler Dealership into his GM dealership. GM and Chrysler did not give the owner to OK to do this, and there is s problem with his joining the dealerships. When he joined the two dealerships he let 22 techs and workers go. All I saw was GM Techs. There are 15 to 20 GM vehicles to one Chrysler product. I think he is going to either sell the dealerrships or close it all together. At any rate I doubt I will return there unless it needs to be towed in for some reqason.
 
The PAC's made after Dec. 06 don't seem to have these problems. The same setup is used in the TC with the 4.L 6speed auto, and so far I have not heard of any 08 haveing any problems. My PAC was made in early Dec. 06, so I think this explains our situation.
 
I have no intention in getting a buy back or anything else. the LifeTime Limited Warranty is going to replace whatever the PAC needs. I am retired so I can invest the time. We are so pleased with the rest of the PAC it's worth working things out.
 
farout
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Re: Pacifica Cold Temperature Overdrive Problem [quattrob4u] by waterdr
Jan 11, 2009 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: quattrob4u (Jan 05, 2009 5:34 am)

I have had similar issues. When it is really cold, sub-zero temps, it does not like to go into OD right away. I usually give it a minute or so and if I use the manual shift and return it to auto, it works fine. Also, if I let the car warm up properly before driving, it does not happen at all.
 
Keep in mind, 5 below, 10 below, 15 below temps are insane. They don't make cars to run on the moon. Our Saab does similar goofy things, though, it usually sits in our heated garage, so we don't notice. Fluid is fluid...when it gets cold, it thickens-up.
 
Also, that car may be doing this on purpose as a safety mechanism to protect the transmission to keep the speed up...not sure there.
 
But, 60 minutes of highway driving does seem WAY to long.
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Re: Pacifica Cold Temperature Overdrive Problem [waterdr] by rhollis
Jan 11, 2009 (10:23 am)
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Replying to: waterdr (Jan 11, 2009 6:44 am)

The transmission will not shift into overdrive until it is up to operating temperature. Even in Siberia this should not be more that 10 or 15 minutes.
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07 Pacifica transmission issues by Biggd1999
Jan 12, 2009 (7:41 pm)
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I bought my 07 Pacifica in April 08 with 19k miles on it. It's 4.0L, AWD and I am also experiencing all the shudder issues as many of you, the famous clunking in the front passenger suspension and drivetrain vibration when sitting in park or at a stop light while brake is applied and car in gear. I can actually feel the seat vibrate. I have kept all my work orders from the dealer as I take it in. The last time I was in I asked them specifically to check the TC and they blew me off. They couldn't duplicate any of the issues, I took a ride with two techs at different times,one said he could feel the shudder and there is something wrong, the second said he couldn't feel anything that it's just like every other Pacifica out there.
 
Here is the log
 
1st visit - Front end alignment to fix crooked steering wheel.
2nd visit - Replaced left outer tie rod end to fix clunk in front end.
               Replaced both front and rear engine mounts for the shudder\vibration issue
3rd visit - Replaced inner tie rod and set toe to attempt 2nd fix at the clunking
              Reset the alignment to fix it from the 1st visit
4th visit - Replaced rear motor mount (mount seperated from rubber)
              Replaced strut and mount and aligned the front end for clunking 3rd time!
              Flashed TCM per TSB for shudder
5th visit - Could not duplicate shudder\vibration, clunking or a rattle when the car starts after it has sat for a few days.
 
The car is currently at 35,800 miles and I am about ready to just go park it at the dealer and tell them I don't want it back until it's fixed. I am tired of it and all the hassle of taking the car in not to mention the warranty is almost up.
 
I have no clue if the TC was ever replaced and when I mentioned it they also told me my car was manufactured after the TC issues. I am at a loss here, can I demand them to replace the TC? From reading on here that is the issue.. The shudder happens between 1500-2000 rpms and it doesn't matter what gear I am in. If the rpms are above 2k there isn't any shudder.
 
Any information or advice is greatly appreciated !
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Re: 07 Pacifica transmission issues [Biggd1999] by farout
Jan 16, 2009 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: Biggd1999 (Jan 12, 2009 7:41 pm)

Biggd1999: Welcome to the forum. As I look over your list it seems like there have been a viariety of issues looked at. Does your Service Manager want to help you, and is he responsive? If he is than you have a good dealer so stick with that dealer. If not then that is a horse of a different color.
 
It makes no difference if you bought you PAC new or not, you can ask the service dept. for the build date and the in service date. My PAC was made on Dec. 12, 06. And it was near the end of those with TC issues. You can request the service record for this PAC, that will tell you if the TC has been replaced as well as other issues.. If you did not buy a Chrysler Service Contract you should id you intend to keep the PAC. Too bad you did not get the Lifetime Power Train Warranty.
 
the rpm's are exactlly what is the same as everyone elses rpm shudders. Mine only does it in 6th gear. My TC was replaced already but the dealer is thinking the TC needs to be replaced again. I agree, we need to just get the shudder to happen when the test drive happens. I hope this helps. Let me know if there is something else.
 
farout
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Re: 07 Pacifica transmission issues [farout] by faschulz
Jan 17, 2009 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: farout (Jan 16, 2009 10:47 am)

Hello again last monday the guy from Chrysler called me and told me to took my car again for a test drive with the service manager so can he anowledge that the problem still in my car and based on that he can take a determination in what to do at the beginning I told him that I have been doing that the last 16 months and takes much of my time every time I drop the car, he told me that the report from the people that he sent said that the car was working fine ,even that he order to change all engine mounts, insulators and re flash transmission so at the end he felt something I guess. I spoke with one lawyer that I have as plan B just in case thinks goes wrong for me and told me to go to his office that he was planning to do something more than the lemon law and of course told me to bring my check book because there were some court fees involved, that did not sound right to me I just want my money or a replacement in good working condition I don't want to harm any one. After this I took the car to the dealer for the test drive they felt all the shudder and kick back from the transmission in 0 to 10 to 0 they are about to call Chrysler on monday I'll keep posted.
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Re: 07 Pacifica transmission issues [faschulz] by juleszee
Jan 17, 2009 (8:49 am)
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Replying to: faschulz (Jan 17, 2009 7:09 am)

Sounds like you are having some luck. Chrysler will not help me with my Pac and neither will the Lemon Law, Cant find a Lawyer around here that will with it. hruey dont offer abritration where i live.
My Transmission is bad, vehicle doesnt start all the time. They think my computer is going out ( according to another shop) no warning lights etc.. Its a piece of junk. Cant get help anywhere with it. I cant even trade it in, the other dealerships tried to drive it and they wouldnt even give me 10,000 for it. they offered me 9800.00 .. I was shocked!! when it was new paid well over 32,000 for it. talk about a decline in value. I just dont know what to do. any advice would be great.

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