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The Great Leather Debate by gogophers1
Oct 10, 2006 (8:41 pm)
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I agree with both of you - kind of.
 
I personally think leather looks more attractive than cloth (at least for the first year or so). Yet, I much prefer cloth for car interiors.
 
Leather is more breathable than vinyl, but it's silly to argue that it's as breathable as cloth - no matter how "fine" it is. If you doubt me, stroll around in leather pants for a few hours (don't ask). And while I have leather furniture in the house and I rather enjoy it, I don't want it in the cars. Of course, the inside of the house remains at a constant 70 - the cars... not so much.
 
Maintenance is a concern too. The argument is often made that leather requires less care, but that too is false. Perhaps it's easier to do a quickie clean-up if you dump a mocha shake on a leather car seat, but that same seat will crack and split after a few years of summer sun without a lot of conditioner. That said, I have seen 25 year old cars with 100K on the clock and velour seats that still look new. I have never seen a 25 year old car with leather that looks new.
 
I'm actually flummoxed by the number of people with leather in their cars that have told me they don't much care for it. In America though, it's so commonly associated with "luxury", it's a must-have item for a lot of folks. Plus, it's a relatively cheap luxury nowadays: on many Ford models for instance, it's a free or low-cost option. 25 years ago, opting for leather could add 10% or more to the cost of a new car. Now the guy a lane over driving the Focus or Elantra might be sitting on leather.
 
It's interesting that in Europe, where the open display of wealth is more a vice than a virtue, even luxury cars are available with cloth interiors. Before someone jumps on me for that statement, let me add that's not the reason EVERYONE here chooses leather over cloth, but I fear that's the reason a lot of folks do (e.g., the Joneses).
 
On a different note, not too long ago I was at a dealership where the salesman was attempting to talk me into a car on his lot that was exactly what I wanted EXCEPT it had leather. Of course, he wanted to know why I was insistent about having cloth so I told him that I liked the grip of cloth in turns. He replied that his wife preferred leather for just the opposite reason - she could easily slide in and out of the seat without wrinkling her skirt. Perhaps that would've been a good point, but I don't wear skirts nor do I intend to anytime in the future.
 
Thank God it's a free country. My vote is for cloth.
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Re: The Great Leather Debate [gogophers1] by jeffyscott
Oct 11, 2006 (5:48 am)
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Replying to: gogophers1 (Oct 10, 2006 8:41 pm)

Very well stated...
 
I pretty much agree with all of that. I would agree that leather, when new or well cared, for does look better.
 
Some leather seating is so heavily coated that it really is pretty much the same as vinyl. My wife's parents have a Crown Vic from a few years back that is like this...very slick and heavily coated leather. It really more like the leather substrate has been laminated with a vinyl type material.
 
Other leather I have sat on (Maxima, Honda Pilot, VW) was much nicer and would be something I could tolerate, if I had too...but I'd still not choose it over cloth.
 
That many take leather strictly for the looks is made clear by the fact that most buyers will even take vinyl ("leatherette") over cloth.
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Re: The Great Leather Debate [jeffyscott] by otaku18
Feb 25, 2007 (7:30 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Oct 11, 2006 5:48 am)

I went with leather mostly for the appearance which on the fusion is far and above the cloth look (love the stitching) I also like the easy cleanup. The seats are very comfy even on long trips. A few complaints though:
 
Lumbar not electric, no lumbar or electric for side passenger. No heat in back. Leather could be higher quality. The recline is the most annoying part though.
 
Personally I don't use the lumbar but other drivers of my car have and wish it were electric. I also don't mind that it isn't all electric or heated. But these are things to be pointed out.
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Re: The Great Leather Debate [otaku18] by goodgradesnow
May 28, 2008 (10:57 am)
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Replying to: otaku18 (Feb 25, 2007 7:30 pm)

I agree the leather in the Ford Fusion as a bit ruff but gets a lot softer over use
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2006 Milan interior by mwalter
Oct 20, 2008 (5:15 pm)
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I'm looking at buying a 2006 Milan Premier with the wood grain interior, but I would prefer the silver interior. It looks to me like it should be able to be switched easily, is this possible?
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Re: The Great Leather Debate [otaku18] by mtnman1
Oct 21, 2008 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: otaku18 (Feb 25, 2007 7:30 pm)

I have begun looking at cars again after considering buying one back in July. The deals are really good right now. I have narrowed down to the 2009 Fusion SEL V6 or the 2009 Hyundai Sonata Limited V6. I went to the ford dealership and drove the Fusion down the road about a mile to the Hyundai Dealership to do a side by side comparison. Sonata is better looking on the exterior along with the 18" wheels it has. Fusion's leather is a much better quality. In fact, the leather is excellent and better than what I've seen in Toyotas. The overall feel and look of the Fusion's interior rates better than the Hyundai. The Hyundai has a better Warranty and better MPG rating as well more Horsepower. I've gotten great deal offers from both Dealerships, but I'm having a terrible time deciding which one I want to buy. I have driven both on the Highway, but I plan on taking out the Fusion for another drive and immediately going to Hyundai to drive it again. I'm going to pay particular attention to wind and road noise in the cabin. As well as how they take bumps in the road. Any opinions and experiences with either would be appreciated.
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Re: The Great Leather Debate [mtnman1] by akirby
Oct 22, 2008 (4:57 am)
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Replying to: mtnman1 (Oct 21, 2008 12:57 pm)

Don't think you can go wrong with either one. The 2010 Fusion is being unveiled next month and will be on sale in January. It gets an upgraded interior (especially the center stack and radio), restyled front and rear clips and new engines: 2.5L I4, 3.0L V6 w/240+ hp and a sport model with the 3.5L V6 (265 hp) plus a new Hybrid. Ford is promising best in class fuel economy for the 2.5L gas and hybrid and the 3.0L, not sure about the 3.5L. But if you're not in a hurry it might be worth waiting to see.
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Re: The Great Leather Debate [akirby] by mtnman1
Oct 24, 2008 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 22, 2008 4:57 am)

Went this morning and test drove a Fusion V6 with the sports appearance package, the SEL V6, Hyundai Sonata V6 Limited, and Hyundai Azera w/Ultimate Package. The Sonata is not even close to the Fusion SEL in ride and driving comfort. Sonata's suspension was very loud when going over bumps. Everything about the Sonata's interior seemed second rate to the Fusion which had Heated Leather seats, Moonroof, and the upgraded stereo sytsem. For me the Fusion was just better in every way and I went into the search with a bias toward the Sonata. The Fusion with the sports appearance package blew all of them away in handling, but the ride is maybe a bit too firm for me. The 18" wheels were gorgeous along with the spoiler. The optional equipment on the Fusion SEL was the Moon & Tune Package, Rear Spoiler, Reverse Sensing, and all weather floor mats. The SEL comes with heated leather seats, climate control, Ambient interior lighting, Sync Voice activated sytem, 6 months of Sirius satellite, steering wheel mounted audio controls, and much more. Of course the Sonata is similarly equipped. Now the Azera was better than both. Incredibly quite smooth ride. Hyundai sounded like they were really desperate to make a sale, but at that point I was getting tired, so I told them I'd get back with them. The Azera w/ultimate had a MSRP of $31,000 roughly so unless they are really willing to come down in price it's more than I want to spend on a car right now. The numbers on the Fusion are: MSRP $26,715 OTD including tax, title, etc. $24050. Taxes are 6.75% and are calculated on the MSRP.

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