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Last post on Nov 07, 2008 at 5:14 PM
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#18 of 27 Re: The Great Leather Debate [akirby]
by mtnman1
Oct 25, 2008 (4:45 pm)
I'm planning on signing the deal on the 2009 Fusion SEL on Monday after work. The final out the door will be $22,877 for the car that had a MSRP of 26,715. For a moment this morning I thought I might even be getting a $4000 rebate because the Salesman called and told me the rebate was $3000 plus an additional $1000 with Financing though Ford. I checked online on Ford's website because I could have sworn it was $2500 + $1000. Called him back and he double checked and found that he was looking at the rebates on an '08. I still feel I'm getting a very good deal and a very good car. Hopefully I will get at least 18 miles per gallon around town with the Fusion. Would have considered a Malibu or Saturn Aura, but they just don't seem to really want to deal. I thought GM was in pretty bad shape financially and from what I heard on the Financial news channel that's owned by NBC (The name escapes me right now) that GM has virtually sold no vehicles in October. Hyundai seemed the most hungry to make deals. Probably could have gotten the Limited for a $1000 lower than the Fusion, but it comes down to ride, comfort, appearance and the overall feel when I sit in a car to me. If I didn't care about those things then I'd just buy a Prius for the MPG.
#19 of 27 Re: The Great Leather Debate [mtnman1]
by explorerx4
Oct 25, 2008 (5:54 pm)
i drive with the average mpg displayed. it helps you notice when you are doing something to cause it to drop. with a fwd fusion, i think 18 mpg is not too difficult.
#20 of 27 Re: The Great Leather Debate [explorerx4]
by mtnman1
Oct 26, 2008 (6:32 am)
Yes that's a very good suggestion and one I use on our '04 Mountaineer AWD V8. I find if I accelerate smoothly I can get around 14 to 15 MPG around town. My wife drives it most of the time and she doesn't seem to get it because I'll get in it after 3 or 4 days and see that the average has dropped to 12.5 MPG. Fortunately gas has dropped to 2.399 here. Not sure how long that will last.
#21 of 27 Re: The Great Leather Debate [mtnman1]
by explorerx4
Oct 26, 2008 (4:01 pm)
HA! HA! I have an '02 explorer v8, which my kids usually drive, so I know EXACTLY what you mean!
#22 of 27 Re: The Great Leather Debate [explorerx4]
by samnoe
Oct 29, 2008 (4:57 pm)
So, what did you took in the end? Fusion?
While I did not drive both of the cars (only an '08 Sonata), I've spoken with some other drivers. Most will agree that Sonata is quieter and feels more refined (especially when idle). The 2009 Sonata interior is just gorgeous with blue backlighting and high-quality material, has excellent prices, and is a bit bigger in all dimensions. The Fusion's interior is nowhere as good. Dated gauges, radio and climate controls, everything old school, low mounted, and not easy accessible.
I am a little skeptical about the upcoming 2010 Fusion's interior. I assume it will be similar to most new Fords, (Flex and Lincoln MKS comes to mind). While better quality materials, the design is not eye catching, and IMO, Ford has the worst interior designs in class.
Compared with the Sonata, the Fusion definitely handles better, especially on curvy roads. It has better steering, and to some people (me excluded) better exterior appearance.
But as someone stated above, you won't go wrong with wither one. Good luck in your choice, and happy driving!!
#23 of 27 Re: The Great Leather Debate [samnoe]
by mtnman1
Oct 30, 2008 (1:11 pm)
I bought the Fusion. It was hands down the better vehicle to me. I test drove both the Sonata and Fusion numerous times over the past 4 months. The final clincher for me was last Friday I drove the Fusion for about 20 minutes on both Highway and city. Drove the Fusion directly to the Hyundai dealer at the end of the test drive which is about a mile from Ford. Drove the Sonata on the same roads. The black leather in the Fusion was a much better quality than the Sonata's. The ride and interior noise was much better and quieter than the sonata. The Sonata rear suspension made a loud clunk on every bump. The driving position was much better in the Fusion for me. Overall I thought the Fusion's exterior and Interior were just more appealing to me. I bought that Fusion SEL V6 w/Black Leather and all that comes with the SEL plus Moonroof, Upgraded stereo w/ 6 CD changer, Rear Sensing, Rear Spoiler, and All Weather Floor mats. I picked it up Monday night and have put about 200 miles on it. I'm not regretting anything about my decision. You really need to drive both to understand. I thought for sure when I first started looking at cars that it was going to be the Sonata since I already own a 2003 LX V6. I'm glad I tried some of the other sedans out there.
Oct 30, 2008 (4:35 pm)
My sister in-law purchased a used 2005 Mercedes C class entry level sedan. Nice car no doubt. However, after all was said and done, the sister in-law gone. My wife who knows nothing about cars, says "The leather in the Fusion feels better than the leather in the Mercedes" !! So much for status..
#25 of 27 Cloth Seats- SE, SEL and Sport Appearance Package?
by igozoomzoom
Nov 07, 2008 (1:03 pm)
I'm planning to buy a new car in the next six months and I've pretty much settled on the Fusion. I'm one of the relatively few car buyers who does NOT like leather interior! I prefer dark interior colors (Black/Charcoal) and black leather is a torture device on blazing hot Georgia summer days! I like the look and feel of a high quality cloth interior.
I have seen the Black Cloth with Red Stitching/Trim that is standard with the SAP and love it! I currently have a 2006 Mazda3 with black interior and the middle section of the seats is black/red checks- I'm a UGA grad, so red and black are my colors!
Is the cloth seat fabric the same for SE and SEL models with the Sport Appearance Package? I'm also curious how the Charcoal Black cloth looks in the standard SE model (without SAP). I'll wait for the 2010 model to arrive at dealers, so I can get the best deal on an '09. If I can't get a model with the SAP/cloth, I'll probably go for a regular SE model. The standard SEL isn't an option because I don't care for the Piano Black Dash/Center Stack trim at all!
#26 of 27 Re: Cloth Seats- SE, SEL and Sport Appearance Package? [igozoomzoom]
by akirby
Nov 07, 2008 (1:14 pm)
The piano black dash trim is the best interior trim to me (I have a 06 SEL w/medium light stone and it looks great). The dealer should have a sample chart with the actual seat materials for both the SE and SEL so you should be able to tell the difference. The red and black combo does look great - you'll love it. (fellow Georgian and UGA grad - 86).
#27 of 27 Re: Cloth Seats- SE, SEL and Sport Appearance Package? [igozoomzoom]
by explorerx4
Nov 07, 2008 (5:14 pm)
i prefer cloth interiors too. the focus i had before my fusion had heated cloth seats.
great for up here in new england.