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Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan, Interior, Sedan
#15 of 27 Re: The Great Leather Debate [otaku18]
Oct 21, 2008 (12:57 pm)
I have begun looking at cars again after considering buying one back in July. The deals are really good right now. I have narrowed down to the 2009 Fusion SEL V6 or the 2009 Hyundai Sonata Limited V6. I went to the ford dealership and drove the Fusion down the road about a mile to the Hyundai Dealership to do a side by side comparison. Sonata is better looking on the exterior along with the 18" wheels it has. Fusion's leather is a much better quality. In fact, the leather is excellent and better than what I've seen in Toyotas. The overall feel and look of the Fusion's interior rates better than the Hyundai. The Hyundai has a better Warranty and better MPG rating as well more Horsepower. I've gotten great deal offers from both Dealerships, but I'm having a terrible time deciding which one I want to buy. I have driven both on the Highway, but I plan on taking out the Fusion for another drive and immediately going to Hyundai to drive it again. I'm going to pay particular attention to wind and road noise in the cabin. As well as how they take bumps in the road. Any opinions and experiences with either would be appreciated.
#16 of 27 Re: The Great Leather Debate [mtnman1]
Oct 22, 2008 (4:57 am)
Don't think you can go wrong with either one. The 2010 Fusion is being unveiled next month and will be on sale in January. It gets an upgraded interior (especially the center stack and radio), restyled front and rear clips and new engines: 2.5L I4, 3.0L V6 w/240+ hp and a sport model with the 3.5L V6 (265 hp) plus a new Hybrid. Ford is promising best in class fuel economy for the 2.5L gas and hybrid and the 3.0L, not sure about the 3.5L. But if you're not in a hurry it might be worth waiting to see.
#17 of 27 Re: The Great Leather Debate [akirby]
Oct 24, 2008 (10:32 am)
Went this morning and test drove a Fusion V6 with the sports appearance package, the SEL V6, Hyundai Sonata V6 Limited, and Hyundai Azera w/Ultimate Package. The Sonata is not even close to the Fusion SEL in ride and driving comfort. Sonata's suspension was very loud when going over bumps. Everything about the Sonata's interior seemed second rate to the Fusion which had Heated Leather seats, Moonroof, and the upgraded stereo sytsem. For me the Fusion was just better in every way and I went into the search with a bias toward the Sonata. The Fusion with the sports appearance package blew all of them away in handling, but the ride is maybe a bit too firm for me. The 18" wheels were gorgeous along with the spoiler. The optional equipment on the Fusion SEL was the Moon & Tune Package, Rear Spoiler, Reverse Sensing, and all weather floor mats. The SEL comes with heated leather seats, climate control, Ambient interior lighting, Sync Voice activated sytem, 6 months of Sirius satellite, steering wheel mounted audio controls, and much more. Of course the Sonata is similarly equipped. Now the Azera was better than both. Incredibly quite smooth ride. Hyundai sounded like they were really desperate to make a sale, but at that point I was getting tired, so I told them I'd get back with them. The Azera w/ultimate had a MSRP of $31,000 roughly so unless they are really willing to come down in price it's more than I want to spend on a car right now. The numbers on the Fusion are: MSRP $26,715 OTD including tax, title, etc. $24050. Taxes are 6.75% and are calculated on the MSRP.
#18 of 27 Re: The Great Leather Debate [akirby]
Oct 25, 2008 (3:45 pm)
I'm planning on signing the deal on the 2009 Fusion SEL on Monday after work. The final out the door will be $22,877 for the car that had a MSRP of 26,715. For a moment this morning I thought I might even be getting a $4000 rebate because the Salesman called and told me the rebate was $3000 plus an additional $1000 with Financing though Ford. I checked online on Ford's website because I could have sworn it was $2500 + $1000. Called him back and he double checked and found that he was looking at the rebates on an '08. I still feel I'm getting a very good deal and a very good car. Hopefully I will get at least 18 miles per gallon around town with the Fusion. Would have considered a Malibu or Saturn Aura, but they just don't seem to really want to deal. I thought GM was in pretty bad shape financially and from what I heard on the Financial news channel that's owned by NBC (The name escapes me right now) that GM has virtually sold no vehicles in October. Hyundai seemed the most hungry to make deals. Probably could have gotten the Limited for a $1000 lower than the Fusion, but it comes down to ride, comfort, appearance and the overall feel when I sit in a car to me. If I didn't care about those things then I'd just buy a Prius for the MPG.
#19 of 27 Re: The Great Leather Debate [mtnman1]
Oct 25, 2008 (4:54 pm)
i drive with the average mpg displayed. it helps you notice when you are doing something to cause it to drop. with a fwd fusion, i think 18 mpg is not too difficult.
#20 of 27 Re: The Great Leather Debate [explorerx4]
Oct 26, 2008 (5:32 am)
Yes that's a very good suggestion and one I use on our '04 Mountaineer AWD V8. I find if I accelerate smoothly I can get around 14 to 15 MPG around town. My wife drives it most of the time and she doesn't seem to get it because I'll get in it after 3 or 4 days and see that the average has dropped to 12.5 MPG. Fortunately gas has dropped to 2.399 here. Not sure how long that will last.
#21 of 27 Re: The Great Leather Debate [mtnman1]
Oct 26, 2008 (3:01 pm)
HA! HA! I have an '02 explorer v8, which my kids usually drive, so I know EXACTLY what you mean!
#22 of 27 Re: The Great Leather Debate [explorerx4]
Oct 29, 2008 (3:57 pm)
So, what did you took in the end? Fusion?
While I did not drive both of the cars (only an '08 Sonata), I've spoken with some other drivers. Most will agree that Sonata is quieter and feels more refined (especially when idle). The 2009 Sonata interior is just gorgeous with blue backlighting and high-quality material, has excellent prices, and is a bit bigger in all dimensions. The Fusion's interior is nowhere as good. Dated gauges, radio and climate controls, everything old school, low mounted, and not easy accessible.
I am a little skeptical about the upcoming 2010 Fusion's interior. I assume it will be similar to most new Fords, (Flex and Lincoln MKS comes to mind). While better quality materials, the design is not eye catching, and IMO, Ford has the worst interior designs in class.
Compared with the Sonata, the Fusion definitely handles better, especially on curvy roads. It has better steering, and to some people (me excluded) better exterior appearance.
But as someone stated above, you won't go wrong with wither one. Good luck in your choice, and happy driving!!
#23 of 27 Re: The Great Leather Debate [samnoe]
Oct 30, 2008 (12:11 pm)
I bought the Fusion. It was hands down the better vehicle to me. I test drove both the Sonata and Fusion numerous times over the past 4 months. The final clincher for me was last Friday I drove the Fusion for about 20 minutes on both Highway and city. Drove the Fusion directly to the Hyundai dealer at the end of the test drive which is about a mile from Ford. Drove the Sonata on the same roads. The black leather in the Fusion was a much better quality than the Sonata's. The ride and interior noise was much better and quieter than the sonata. The Sonata rear suspension made a loud clunk on every bump. The driving position was much better in the Fusion for me. Overall I thought the Fusion's exterior and Interior were just more appealing to me. I bought that Fusion SEL V6 w/Black Leather and all that comes with the SEL plus Moonroof, Upgraded stereo w/ 6 CD changer, Rear Sensing, Rear Spoiler, and All Weather Floor mats. I picked it up Monday night and have put about 200 miles on it. I'm not regretting anything about my decision. You really need to drive both to understand. I thought for sure when I first started looking at cars that it was going to be the Sonata since I already own a 2003 LX V6. I'm glad I tried some of the other sedans out there.
Oct 30, 2008 (3:35 pm)
My sister in-law purchased a used 2005 Mercedes C class entry level sedan. Nice car no doubt. However, after all was said and done, the sister in-law gone. My wife who knows nothing about cars, says "The leather in the Fusion feels better than the leather in the Mercedes" !! So much for status..