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#44 of 144 engine light on
Feb 23, 2008 (4:17 pm)
I took my Aveo to a transmission shop and they ran a diagnostics on it. 1.6L91 Intermittent Misfire during deceleration or steady state highway driving after cold start with DTCs P0300,P0700,P1781 and/or U0401 set (Replace Valves and Valve
Stem Seals). The reason I went to a transmission shop was that when my Aveo died in July 2007 I had it towed to the nearest Chevy dealer. 2 and 4 valves were
bad. GM was called in. When he showed up he said it was reckless driving. He was very rude. I had the timing chain change 10,000 miles early to avoid this problem. Have not had a ticket in many years. Boy did he make me mad. He said they would replace them this time but never again. I have an extended warranty. I said you can see the timing chain is good you just can't find the problem. I asked him if he got out of bed on the wrong side. They kept my car for 2 weeks, they did not have a loaner car so I had to rent one. I pick up the car road it around the block and was back at the chevy dealer. This time they gave me
a loaner. They kept the car 13 days and 18 hours, 6 hours short of being a lemon.
I asked what was wrong. Fuel injecter was plugged and put a plug on the number
2 valve. They charged me $6.15 for the plug. The towing, car rental and plug came
out of my pocket when it was under warrenty. I said when you ran the diagnostics
you could not tell that the plug was bad? He said if you know so much about cars
why don't you fix it? I said because I don't have the tools for a Nissen engine. I work 1 hour away from my house so I stop in at the Chevy dealer there. I showed
him the diagnostics papers and he said he would love to do the job but I had to call
the warrenty people and they said I had to go to the other dealer because they have
been paid once already for this and there is a 12 month warrenty on the job. The
Chevy dealer were I work said when I brought the car back the 2nd time they should have checked the technical service bulletin there is no excuse for not doing
this. So I called the other dealer told him I had a diagnostic run on my car and the
number is---I don't need the number. So I have to wait another week until they can
look at it. Then they will probably have to order the parts. He was very rude. This is a 5 star garage and they did not do it right in the first place and I have to go back
there. Well I quess I will wait and see what they do. I drive 45 minutes to work, so 90 miles a day and it is using 8 galllons of gas. When it is all said and done I will
be calling Chevy to register a complaint and if they won't do anything about it, I am
telling them I drive a yellow aveo and I am going to get some black tape and all around my car it is going to say my chevy aveo is a lemon and chevy refuses to do
anything about it and then contact the news and a attorney. Amen. Hope most of you don't have the same problem I have.
#45 of 144 misfire during deceleration TSB
Feb 28, 2008 (11:23 pm)
I called and talked to my warranty company today. I kept getting different answers. First they said I had to go to the dealer that did the valve job. So I started thinking most of these jobs are 12 months or 12,000 miles what ever comes
first. Then they told me I could go to the small transmission place. They don't have loaners, so I had to call them back again. Since I was getting so many different answers I ask them if there was any one there that was a mechanic and had been with the company for a long period of time. So low and behold I get this mechanic that use to work for GM his job was to create TSB. I told him I was getting all these different answers and he laughed and said, we are training many new people and they are suppose to check with there team leaders first. He said
I am so sorry, how can I help you? I thought warranty companies were suppose to
please the customer. That is correct. So I told him I did not want to go back to
the Chevy Dealer that did the valve job. So he pulled up the work order. The car was in the shop for 2 weeks then they called me and said it was ready. I had to rent a car because they did not have a loaner. I drove the call around the block and
brought it right back to the dealer. I told them the call is still driving real rough.
They kept the car for 13 more days to change the number 2 plug and to clean the
fuel injection. So the car at the warranty company says I don't blame you for being
upset. First off they should of called us to see if we would pay for a rental, they should of told you this. Also they charge you for a plug that was under warranty.
They did not check to see if there were any TSB out on this, so they broke GM
standard of work. So they only did half of the job. He then told me to take it to a
different Chevy Dealer and he would waive the deductible. Everything is covered under the warranty. They still have to send a inspector out just for the simple fact that anything over a $1000 this is required. So I go to the dealer and the service advisor says are you sure the warranty company said you could come here? I said yes they want you to give them a call anyway and they will fax you the first work order from the other dealer so you have a starting point. He wants you to write up
this work order as a dispute, so GM can get this company honest again. The service advisor says I have been working here for 25 years and never heard of this
happening. How can I dispute when it is not GM car anymore. I said call the warranty company. She calls me back 1 hour later and says wow you were right.
The warranty company says I have the right to sue this dealership. For fraud, for misinformation and not doing the job right. If she disputes it, it will give the warranty permission and they will contact GM so GM can straighten them out. I don't think they will be a 5 star dealer anymore. I want to thank this forum it sure
help me out.
#46 of 144 Re: misfire during deceleration TSB [yupper1]
Feb 29, 2008 (5:56 am)
That sounds great and I hope you get your car fixed.
I don't know what state you are in, but I know in California, they have some kind of law that says that you have a right to take the car back if the repair isn't done right the first time. And, I think if they don't fix it after a certain number of times, you can either get a refund on the car (of course, you have to turn the car in), or you get the problem fixed for free for the life of the car.
Someone else might be able to clarify that.
#47 of 144 Re: misfire during deceleration TSB [luckins]
Feb 29, 2008 (8:32 am)
thank you. I live in Michigan. I will do some further research.
#48 of 144 Yupper1
Mar 02, 2008 (3:58 pm)
I am having the same codes as you: p1781, p0700, and p0300. You said the resolve was to get to cylinder head valves replaced and a plug. Was it a spart plug? You also said that your car still runs rough? Is the check engine light still comming on? Any help would be appreciated...
#49 of 144 Re: Yupper1 [johns9]
Mar 05, 2008 (10:52 pm)
Yes the check engine light comes and goes. Riding real rough, eating gas like it was water. Misfires. The first two times I had transmission problems this is what they did: Change valve 2 and 4. Still had problems they said it was the number 2 plug and fuel injector was plugged. I had a diagnostic run on it. They came up
TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) 1.6L L91 Intermittent Misfire During Deceleration or Steady State Highway Driving After Cold Start with DTCs P0300, P0700, P1781
Replace Valves and Valve Stem Seals) Cause: the engine misfire may be experienced due to a valve sealing concern. You can go to www. NHTSA.gov.
this site will give you all the recalls and all of the TSB. Reference Number:
05-06-01-030c. This is covered under my warranty. It is $1000 to $1200 the job will
take about 8 hrs. If you are still under warranty I would call them and check it out.
Good Luck, drop us a note when you get it checked out.
#50 of 144 tsb 05-06-01-030c
Mar 10, 2008 (8:55 am)
Well my 2004 aveo is in the garage today for the 3rd time with transmissions problems, the warrenty company will pay for the TSB. They also told me that they are having problems with the fuel injectors and they will replace for free. I can not find a recall on this. My car also started to backfire. Should know more by the end of the week. Codes that I got were P0300, P0700 and P1781
#52 of 144 I have a 2004 Chev Aveo that is a LEMON
Mar 17, 2008 (1:53 pm)
I have a 2004 chev aveo...that i had to replace the motor at 105,000. Since replacing the motor i have also had to do the O2 sensor...and all the plugs and wires. Now when i put it on the machine it reads a code of P0300, which the dealer tells me it is a random misfire code. However the car is NOT misfiring. We have had the engine light reset and within 5 minutes it is back flashing. Now the dealer informs me they dont know what is wrong with the vehicle. Anyone have any suggestions...i dont know what to do with this car...it is only 4 years old and in the past 2 weeks i have sunk almost 2500 dollars into it. ANYONE>>>PLEASE HELP!!! Email me at lisar082774hotmail.com
#53 of 144 Re: I have a 2004 Chev Aveo that is a LEMON [lisar082774]
Mar 17, 2008 (2:50 pm)
Why was the engine replaced? While 100,000+ miles is a lot, a properly maintained modern engine should have lasted longer. Was it an oil burner, or did something catastrophic happen (like a broken timing belt) to cause the problem?
Was the engine replaced by the dealer or a 3rd party shop? If the dealer did the work, was it his suggestion or your desire to have the work done?
I ask these questions because the average trade-in price on a 2004 Aveo is around 4200-4500 with regular mileage (not like the high mileage you reported), maybe less depending on the model traded for. $2500 is a lot to put into a car that doesn't have much value to begin with, and no warranty to speak of after engine repair, other than maybe on the engine itself. So, if it was your suggestion, then you felt it was worth it, but if you were led by the dealer to invest that kind of cash on the car, I would think he has an obligation to make it right.
If it was dealer replaced, it should have come with some type of warranty, which the dealer is obligated to honor.
So, if it were me under these circumstances, I would lean on the dealer to send the car to another GM shop for advanced diagnosis...after all, its their obligation to you for your $2500 "contribution".
However, if it was a non-dealer install, you could be in for an expensive time in search of the eroneous code explanation.