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Buick Lucerne, Tires, Wheels, Steering, Sedan
#75 of 226 Re: 06 Buick Lucerne [imidazol97]
Dec 17, 2006 (2:36 pm)
My vibration feels like vibration of cellphone in vibration mode. Even when driving 30-40 m/h especially uphill. Dealer replaced motor mounts 2 times, same result. Then he told me that all 2007 Lucernes do the same. After driving for 2 hours and keeping foot on a gas pedal which vibrates like this, foot goes numb. I will try to make GM to buy this car back under lemon law.
Unfortunatelly Buick has nothing else compatible. I will go to another manufacturer.
#76 of 226 Re: Lucerne vibration [gsabens]
Dec 21, 2006 (4:49 pm)
Would you believe dealer costs on the Conti's are about $22 each... What a rip.. Yet you call into a dealership and advise them of the issue, they play the "idiot" game with "We've never heard of other problems before".. Ironically, if they added up the man hours wasted on RoadForce testing, rotations, etc. the warranty brokers would quickly realize they are getting taken by the dealerships, the dealerships are wasting man hours on servicing more customers, and we would ALL be happy with a new set of Michelins.. Case closed.
#77 of 226 Re: Lucerne vibration [fcox]
Dec 30, 2006 (11:24 am)
I don't own a Lucerne, but have driven all three models, each having different tires and suspension calibrations. I found the vibrations in the two top models unacceptable, and while the base model was smooth, its steering was too flabby. I can only conclude, and I base this on having driven lots of cars that used to have smooth rides, that the push to stiffer suspensions and the use of low profile tires are the culprits. A Buick should never have a tire lower than 60 profile. Has anyone tried the Goodyear Comfortred? I put them on my Marquis and now the car sounds and rides like I thought it was supposed to. Tires are like shoes: they make all the difference.
#78 of 226 Re: Lucerne vibration [bruneau1]
Dec 30, 2006 (12:55 pm)
Thanks, I really appreciate your input. I also think this is tires issue, but I will let GM to resolve this problem. I really fed up with them. At this point I just want my money back and will go buy something else...
#79 of 226 Re: Lucerne vibration [bruneau1]
Dec 30, 2006 (2:27 pm)
I'll bet the lower model has standard tires 70 series and were inflated at 28-30 pounds. Inflate them to 33 or put on better tires that aren't oriented to soft ride and you'll have a world of difference.
The other models have 16/17 wheels with stiffer profile tires on them along with tighter suspension. The feel of the road and the tires is all fixable. But go buy whatever you want of course. There are many vehicles in Edmunds that have some tire/vibration issues and some of those can't be fixed based on what I've read in some discussions. That's a shame.
If I'm buying a specific car I'd want any dealer to fix the wheel balance before I purchased the vehicle.
#80 of 226 OE tire pricing
Jan 02, 2007 (11:42 am)
I have an 04 VW New Beetle with Contis under it and they are so smooth running that I must keep an eye on the speedo to watch my speed. I paid $10,000 more for my Lucerne and can feel the vibration level changing with even a small change in speed. VW's Contis $83, Buick's Contis $48 at Tire Rack.
Pricing aside, I think Bruneau1 has the answer, the Buick is a much heavier car. The fix is obvious GM!!!
#81 of 226 Floor Board Vibration
Jan 08, 2007 (11:21 am)
First let me say that I can change my mind for another 27 days on this Used 2006 Lucerne CX V6 3.8L. Man I love the car and it is right down to what I would have ordered if I were to buy it new. I really really do not want to have to go for something another 2006 Lucerne but can If I need to. This car has 10,500 miles and is as smooth a ride I have ever had. My previous cars were a 97 Century and a 99 Century. Both were smooth too, but no way as smooth as this Lucerne at all speeds. After driving this Lucerne for 4 days or about 200 miles here are some things I don't think are normal and want to pass along here and see if other Lucerne owners have experienced or are experiencing similar "anomalies".
First Concern: If I accelerate from a complete stop with just a little more gas than a slow acceleration there is a vibration that can be felt through the floor board fro the 1st second or so of the acceleration. Sort of like a cell phone vibration. It is audible too but not real aloud. My wife noticed it right away while sitting on the passenger side. As I accelerate it feels like I am accelerating through the vibration and within a second or so everything is smooth as can be. This has nothing to do with the tires. It is definitely something under the hood. I have felt this type of vibration in my wife's new model Jetta when turning on her air conditioner.
Second concern: Maybe a little off topic under this discussion but thought I would ask so perhaps I can my answers in one place. This car definitely has "cold engine ping" Once it is warmed up (doesn't take long as I live in Hawaii) the engine is smooth as can be. In fact it will stay that way all day even after being parked for 8 hours at work. Pings only on first start in the morning.
My last two car a used 97 Buick Century and a used 99 Buick Century Custom both had cold engine ping. I bought the 99 with 28,000 miles and it had cold engine ping the whole time I owned it up to 94,500 miles and I had no problems due to the ping. I used 92 octane too... so, I wondering if the cold engine ping is something that can be lived with on the Lucerne too.
Any input would be appreciated.
#82 of 226 Re: Floor Board Vibration [fredschulz]
Jan 08, 2007 (3:36 pm)
Do you mean you get a ping once when it just starts? Or do you mean the 3800 pings continually as it's running. If so, that's probably a ping sensor that's not kicking in to retard the spark...
What happen if you use 89 octane (is that the regular octane for your location?) Give it a couple of tank fulls... I wonder if you're using 92 if that's confusing the sensors.
#83 of 226 Re: Floor Board Vibration [imidazol97]
Jan 08, 2007 (11:22 pm)
I DO get that one snapping ping when it starts. Was wonndering if that was normal too.
I also get the continous ping ONLY for less than 5 minutes when I first start the car in the morning. ONLY in the morning too. If the car sets 8 continous hours at work when I start it at the end of the workday there is NO continous pinging for a few minutes.
If the car sets over night... in the garage or out of the garage when I start it in the morning there is a pinging for abvout three to five minutes. Once the car is "warmed up" there is absolutley no continous ping for the rest of the day and into the night. The car rides like it is on air for all speeds except for that little cell phone vibration feeling I feel when initially accelerating. It is felt on the floorboard and also on the steering wheel. In no way does it have anything to do with the tires as it lasts only a second and it has more to do with RPM's than speed.
As fop the Pinging for a few minutes after starting, my 97 and 99 Century behaved this way too.
This might sound silly but I have only had the car since Thursday Evening and tomorrow will be the first time I fill it up. It came with a full tank of gas. The posts are just concerns I have noticed over the first few days of owning it and I wanted to find out about these "anomalies" as soon as possible.
Thanks for the response! and please add more, especially about the pinging after starting in the morning for 3 to 5 minutes and that One snapping ping that occurs when the car is started.
Aloha and mahalo!
#84 of 226 Pinging and vibes
Jan 09, 2007 (10:37 am)
I also noticed a little vibration in the gas pedal of the 6cly i tested just as you describe.
I get a little something like that in the CXS 8 I bought from time to time too. You need to remember as Buick reduced outside noise everything that goes on inside seems much louder. I've had my car fixed for a rattling headliner and a sqeaking in the passasnger seat. I still get a little interior noise from time to time but the car is really quiet and smooth compared to everthing else I've driven even a MB 420 SEL.
As for the pinging it is most likely a fuel mixture issue. Engines run leaner when they are cold and a car tuned on the edge for economy emissions and performance might very well ping when cold. As long as it's not constant then I would not worry about it. Keep in mind the knock sensor "should" retard any pinging as soon as it happens.