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#10 of 67 Awaiting delivery - what can I expect?
Jun 22, 2007 (10:43 am)
I'm expecting delivery of my 2007 CXS early next week. It was ordered from a dealer here in my home town in Canada from the USA. It is a GM company car with 2300 miles and all options for many thousands less than I could have bought it in Canada. Therefore, I don't care if it's called a LaCrosse instead of an Allure. I'm a little concerned about Canadian GM dealers giving me 2nd class service because I bought from the U.S. not from them. Before deciding on the LaCrosse, I test drove a 2007 Honda Accord, a 2007 Toyota Camry and a 2004 Jag type X with the 3 litre engine. As well, I test drove an Allure with the 3.8 and one with the 3.6 engines. All of these vehicles have many goods things going for them. The Jag was quality and fun but I didn't like the tranny that kept searching for the proper gear as well as taking premium fuel. The Accord was rather sporty handling but tire thumping on certain road irregularities. The Camry was softer riding but wind noise was obvious at highway speeds. As well, both the Japanese cars, I found bland looking. The Buick with the 3.6 was great to my tastes. It handled very well at all speeds and on all types of roads. It was very quiet and exuded refinement and quality, although a bit subdued exterior appearance-wise.
Are there any problem areas with this car that I should be aware of? Is there anything I can do about it if there is?
#11 of 67 2007 CXL 15000 miles
Jun 25, 2007 (2:21 pm)
Car with 3.8 litre engine is extremely repsonsive and smooth. Shifting is almost silky. Car is extremely quiet inside. I love the look- its sleek and elegant without being over the top. I am averaging 33 mpg in cruise control at steady 60 mph.
One criticism is that seats could be more supportve and comfortable. Are a little lacking in latteral support. This will be noticable if you really push the car, as in taking curves at high speeds and changing lanes aggressively. Otherwise, if you drive the car like a normal person the support in the seats will be adequate.
I would compare this car to the Lexus ES350 and on that basis the Lacrosse is equivalent.
#12 of 67 Have now received my 2007 CXS
Jul 04, 2007 (3:47 pm)
I took possession last week and my wife and our 3 yr. old grand daughter left to visit our son at his cottage for the weekend, a 3 1/2 hr. drive. The car is super quiet, great handling and a willing engine that leaves a smile on my face. This LaCrosse/Allure is totally optioned out with everything available. I had mud flaps installed. I also wanted a stainless steel or chrome bug deflector but I'm informed that none is available because of the close tolerance (space) between the hood and front fascia. I also wanted stainless exhaust tips for the duals but none will fit simply because there is no room for them and the stock tail pipes are hidden behind the bumper - a shame.
The only complaints I have about the car are, 1. no memory for the seats and mirrors, and 2. the seats themselves are rather small and hard which makes them unsupportive. Overall, the car is a keeper. I've had 2 comments so far that people thought it had a Cadillac look. I guess that's good? And, oh yeah, the gas mileage is fantastic. My low was 30mpg and my high was 37.7mpg, all highway. City mileage, though, is terrible. Don't forget this is Canadian (imperial) gallons which is approximately 20-25% larger than U.S. gal.
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#16 of 67 90 days and 2500 miles with 2010 CXS
Oct 18, 2010 (8:43 pm)
This car replaces a 2009 Mercedes Benz E350 4matic. I'm between jobs so not too many miles yet. I'm normally a 20k per year guy. Anyway, I bought a loaded model FWD CXS. I have HUD, blindside warning, sunroof, NAV and the Touring Pkg.
First, I find the car to be very quiet. Others have criticized the GoodYear Eagle RSAs but I'm fine with them. The car is smooth and confidence inspiring. Other positives are the styling, rear seat room, the NAV system, the HeadsUpDisplay and control layout. I wasn't interested in the HUD and Blindside Alert before owning this Lacrosse, now, having driven it, I highly recommend these options.
The negatives are poor visibility, mediocre gas mileage with the 3.6 (others report more than what I get on Reg Fuel), Bluetooth is missing the download cabability (fixed in 2011 I hear), stereo bass response, small trunk and quirky keyless entry.
Centering the car in a lane is difficult as ther are no sight lines to use. Backing up is not easy, even with the rearview camera.
I got 24.5 mpg on a 200 mile trip which was all freeway with cruise at 75 mph. Others claim 29 with the same drive train.
BT is implemented w/o the OBEX protocol and no transfer of files or phonebook contacts is possible. The voice recognition is very poor when adding tags to manually entered numbers.
The sound system gets an A in everything except bass response. At the low end, this is boomy and fuzzy, not tight and sharp as my E350 was.
The keyless entry balks at times. The remote start has a limited range, less than half what's claimed.
I have an intermittant problem which is yet unresolved. I also had one other very small warranty problem taken care of at 1500 miles (loose weather striping).
Not quite a MB but at $30k price advantage, quite a good buy. As for this being competition to Lexus, until GM dealers learn their products better and provide better service, no chance.
#17 of 67 Re: 90 days and 2500 miles with 2010 CXS [rainman5542]
Oct 19, 2010 (5:57 pm)
I am also at 90 days and 2500 miles but mine is a 2011 CXS with all the options except the sunroof. No problems so far except a bumper replacement which was totally unnecessary. I had a small scratch on the rear drivers side which should have cost no more than $200 to fix.
The insurance estimate was $800 but by the time dealer's body work department was finished, the job and the cost was expanded to $2,000. In short, these guys simply ripped off the insurance company and the quality of their work leaves a lot to be desired.
Nevertheless, my CXS is performing as well as expected and more. Quiet, smooth, dependable and fast. At first I thought the 19 inch tires were noisy and attributed that to my coming from an Avalon that was library quiet. But since then I have come to realize that there is a tradeoff between the aesthetics of the low profile tires and road noise. All features work as expected and I am especially pleased with the Xenon HID headlights. I used to be reluctant to drive at nights but now I do it with confidence. This is truly a worthwhile option and I recommend it to all new owners. Gas mileage is poor at 16.8 mpg but that is okay since I do mostly city driving.
Overall, I like the CXS for its handsome looks and performance but for some reason I like the ride in our 2008 Malibu much better. For one thing the seats are more comfortable and the ride is just right..no compromise in ride, comfort and ergonomics.
#18 of 67 Re: 90 days and 2500 miles with 2010 CXS [bwia]
Oct 20, 2010 (6:51 am)
I don't know what my dealer will do. I found scratch/crease in rear quarterpanel that was painted over at factory. I dread just having them replace the flawed headlight assembly.
It is the tires or the vehicle. My daughter had a Tiburon Shark with very low profile tires. They were not noisy. Her biggest issue was damaging the low profiles.
Poor mileage, I'll say. That is below the sticker city. So far mine looks poor compared to the Aurora V8. I'm hoping it picks up as the vehicle is broke in. I may run lower octane just to see what it does and likely dump oil early to try synthetic.
Oct 20, 2010 (6:59 am)
Seems Buick has a long way to go. This is 2011 CXS loaded other than sunroof and rear seat displays. I've had it 12 days and just over 500 miles. There are some nice things about this vehicle, but:
Lacrosse Bad List
• Head Rests – A real pain in the neck. You can’t tell me GM is not aware. Just look at the drawing in the owners manual related to proper positioning. Even the artist is aware. The guy has his neck crooked forward like Ichabod Crane without the Adams apple.
• Tires with Touring Package – GY Eagle RSA tires are noisy and hard, and also fall short in other areas according to survey at tirerack.com. They rank 15th among similar tires. They may be cause of oscillating sway, maybe because of sidewall construction linked to tread design.
• Seat Memory – It will move into memorized position as soon as driver door is opened, before you get in. That is dumb! More on this subject after I test what the owners manual says. It says that the position used is memorized in the remote. That would seem to indicate 4 possible memorized settings. Two for the remotes + two for the seat memory buttons. It seems the memory does not work as indicated in the manual. Other GM systems I’ve used only require momentary use of memory button to move seat to programmed position. The memory button alone moves seat to exit position. This button when held for a couple of seconds and with a number button creates a memorized position, different than how the manual says to do it. Also over the last few days I’ve had multiple occasions where it did not move forward to what the last position used was when the vehicle was exited. The manual says the fob remembers that position and it is intermittent. I finished moving the seat into position by holding button 1. Only one fob has been used to date. I have no idea what to expect if my wife carries the second one.
Side pockets – They are near useless. If the front ones did not fold out I’d never be able to retrieve what I put in them. They are too small for my needs. And the ones in the rear are even worse. I can see the day coming when I hear screams from the backseat because one of my grandchildren have their hand stuck – safety issue.
Cup holders – As one person wrote, you can’t even put two cups with handles in them at the same time. The arrangement leaves no room for anything else in that area. The rear cup holders only exist if there is only two in back seat. Three kids or adults and you have no cup holders in the rear. They are needed even more with kids.
Center Console – Better use of potential space is definitely needed.
Overhead Console – There seems to be a lot of wasted space here. Certainly enough room to create sunglass storage.
• Speed Sensitive Wipers – I can’t believe they left this off. Even the lowly Malibu has them as standard equipment.
• Seats – They don’t have enough bolster to keep you from sliding around. Some say the Lacrosse has moved from grandpa styling. This seat is like they took a bench seat and cut it in two. Minimizing the amount of lumbar support dialed in does help.
• Back / Lumbar support – One mechanical is not enough to say luxury. Mechanical does overcome variances incurred because of interior temperatures with the air filled ones. But cool down or warm up was fairly quick and it takes a few minutes to settle into the seat anyway. Give me the two air bag system any day and for the passenger as well. Then you might say luxury.
• Armrest – Does not even have a center one. There seems to be enough room that one could be attached to side of console. Passenger side too. Malibu at least has them.
• Floor Mats – These seem pretty cheap. Although my Malibu had upgraded mats and trunk liner at LT2 level, they were much thicker and better quality than these. They likely aided in sound deadening. The trunk liner mat was made of same material. You only get the basic liner on Lacrosse? That says cheap.
• XM reception – I have a lot of dead spots with this car. The couple of known dead spots on the Malibu have quadrupled in size. I suspect I know the reason which is another ‘gotcha’ on GM or Buick.
• Headlamp assembly flaw – Looking at the upper edge, there is a chrome twisted rope design. It has big gaps in it like it is either starting to separate or the chroming was done improperly.
• Steering column – I’ve never seek a rake design that gives the comfort of a real tilt. Especially for entrance and exit of vehicle. Give me tilt!
• Cornering Lamps – They call this a luxury sedan. Anything rated as luxury should have them available if not standard. You don’t know how needed they are until you don’t have them. The potential damage to low profile tires makes them even more needed.
• Suspension tightness – It feels like there is play. Some spots in road induce a sway and it does several oscillations before stopping completely. Sport mode seems to stop most of it, but not all. See ‘Tires with Touring Package’ above.
• Audio Speakers – From the trunk you can see the rear speakers. That is they can easily pass any noise from the trunk. Quality systems would have the back side sealed and ported to the interior if necessary for sound pressure. The size and magnet size is not inspiring for faithful reproduction. Very unlikely they will produce good bass notes such as bass drum or bass guitar. I definitely now wonder what the bandwidth capability of the amp is.
• Today, 20 Oct 2010, the light caught the body in such a way I thought I discovered a new body line. I checked it and it is not a body line, but a deep scratch in the sheet metal accompanied by a wrinkle to both sides. Paint flows well to the scratch area. No damage to paint. This was obviously in the quarter panel prior to painting and makes me think it was done when the quarter panel was dragged to the assembly area. Robot painted right over it.
• Nav/infotainment display – Dimming of it seems to have issue. If light conditions are dim enough to bring headlights on, such as under heavy tree canopy, the display dims and becomes unreadable. I’ve turned the dash brightness control all the way up and gave it the ‘display day’ command which did not help. And the rearview camera is not able to cope with some lighting conditions giving a very poor image.