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Re: Front End Problems? [jmjk]
by donvick
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Aug 06, 2006 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: jmjk (Aug 05, 2006 2:15 pm)
We're clunkless on our Azera with 1679 miles on it so far. Something isn't correct, if something clunks, something is loose as in not tight, able to move enough to make a sound.
Take it back to the dealer or a different dealer and raise havock with them. Its a new car, it ought to be clunkless as well as shakeless.
Had our 17" wheels over 80 mph and no shakes, clunks, shimmies or nervousness.
Take it back and don't accept it back until its fixed as its a safety factor.
Don
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Re: Front End Problems? [donvick]
by rockybob
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Aug 22, 2006 (2:49 pm)
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Replying to: donvick (Aug 06, 2006 7:00 am)
Amazing!! I had the same problem on my Azera (Limited with the Ultimate package) from the first day I had it. I have a good service manager (Jim of Eastside Hyundai) and he found the problem right away. Believe or not, the front anti-sway bar was installed upside down!. It seems impossible, but apparently it can be installed incorrectly. He only discovered it by comparing it to another Azera on the rack. One trip to the service department and the problem is all gone!
As for wheel shake, I've done over 80 with not a hint of shake or shimmy. I seem to recall that there is either a recall or a TSB on "mixing of wheel weights" but it could have been another car.
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Re: Front End Problems? [rockybob]
by chilliwack
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Aug 26, 2006 (5:03 pm)
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Replying to: rockybob (Aug 22, 2006 2:49 pm)
I know there is a front "stabilizer" bar, but for the life of me, I cannot see how it could be installed upside down. I will try and contact your service manager for more info.
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Re: Front End Problems? [rockybob]
by jmjk
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Aug 27, 2006 (12:54 pm)
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Replying to: rockybob (Aug 22, 2006 2:49 pm)
rockybob:
Thanks a ton for the information. While I don't know where Eastside Hyundai is, many kudos to Jim. I have printed the information and will show to the service manager (in Houston). One question for you. My clunk seems to more prevalent at the passenger side, was this the case for you?
Thanks again,
jmjk
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Re: Front End Problems? [jmjk]
by ray_h1
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Aug 27, 2006 (1:24 pm)
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Replying to: jmjk (Aug 27, 2006 12:54 pm)
It can be difficult to accurately localize the source of noise telegraphing through solid metal. I had a '74 AMC Gremlin with an intermittant rattle emanating from the front of the car. One weekend while rotating the tires, I slipped off my stool and found myself looking up directly at a bottom-facing drain hole in a welded-up box section along the rear of the car's unibody. I could see what appeared to be threads on a bolt. I was able to "tease" the bolt (an extra lug bolt as it turned out) that must've been "supplied" by a bored line worker) out. Thereafter, no more rattle. The box section did not extend the length of the car either - that rattle had been comming from the passenger side rear 1/3 all along. (Thank goodness for dumb luck. It's the only kind I've ever had.)
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Re: Front End Problems? [ray_h1]
by jmjk
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Aug 27, 2006 (1:39 pm)
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Replying to: ray_h1 (Aug 27, 2006 1:24 pm)
But the cluck was indeed from the front and when your serice manager figured out the problem the clunk was "gone"?
My point is that I want to make sure that I understand before I point out your "discovery" to my Hyundai service manager.
jmjk
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Re: Front End Problems? [rockybob]
by chilliwack
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Aug 31, 2006 (3:30 pm)
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Replying to: rockybob (Aug 22, 2006 2:49 pm)
Believe or not, the front anti-sway bar was installed upside down!
I think that is a piece of useless mis-information, right up there with a bad gonkulator valve, a loose johnson rod and worn muffler bearings. Thank you very much.
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Re: Front End Problems? [chilliwack]
by rockybob
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Aug 31, 2006 (4:31 pm)
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Replying to: chilliwack (Aug 31, 2006 3:30 pm)
It is probably tilting at windmills to even bother responding to you, but a) I discussed this at length with the service manager, b) he wrote it up in his repair bill that the bar was installed upside down (warranty work to noted by and paid by Hyundai), and c) the noise came from directly where the anti-sway bar passes through two large bushings. The service manager, who actually looked at the ASB, described it as almost completely symetrical, such that incorrect installation caused occasional interference. But hey, you obviously know that this is bull, so don't let me influence your thinking. Just how many Azera ASBs have you examined?
By the way, I'm a retired engineer with 40+ years of technical experience. (I designed airplanes). I've done multiple major repairs (3 engine rebuilds, 2 clutches, 3 trans.). And you?
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Re: Front End Problems? [chilliwack]
by rockybob
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Aug 31, 2006 (5:23 pm)
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Replying to: chilliwack (Aug 31, 2006 3:30 pm)
Oh, yeah. One more thing. Service Manager Jim said that it took examining two Azeras side-by-side on the rack to see the problem. He says he installed it right-side-up. And guess what? What ever he did (why would he lie?) fixed my Azera. It has been quiet ever since. One service call and the clunking is gone.
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Re: Front End Problems? [rockybob]
by zredsox
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Aug 31, 2006 (6:35 pm)
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Replying to: rockybob (Aug 31, 2006 4:31 pm)
Way-to-go, Rockybob.
I think I just saw Chilliwack go down in flames.
Your information and experience will probably be valuable to others on this forum.
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